On 3/25/19 10:22 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 11.02.2019 um 06:10 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > >> Yes, we decided no longer to offer a bundled installer. That was a >> decision we made as a group. > > My point of view is: A group of non-Windows developers (at least not on > a daily basis) and with lots of background knowledge made a decision > what is good for Windows users that are no developers and have no > background knowledge.
You have made your view about this clear. >> I see you re-introduced the mirror code, as well. The plan was to >> download those files from our own server---we have these somewhere on >> lyx.org---but I had not found time yet to do that. > > I don't understand your rationale because the mirror feature was there > for good reasons. LyX.org was quite often dead or slow and users needed > to be able to get dictionaries anyway. That has not been true for a while now. It is very much not true now that we've shifted lyx.org to a much more reliable server. > But that is my main problem with LyX - the development focus on > developers needs, not on the needs of average users. Average users don't > need a dozen more expert features every release but a better workflow > allowing them to write more in shorter time, to collaborate with > colleagues, good and up-to date documentation etc. ...Developers > preferably put in what they need personally. It has been said before, but I'll say it again: It's insulting for those of us who put in as much time on LyX development as we do to be told that we don't care about the needs of average users and only do what benefits us. I mean, shit, do you have any idea how many hours I spent figuring out how to create a Windows installer? Do you think that benefited me personally, or 'expert users', in any way at all? What there is here is (at most) a disagreement about what 'average users' need or want, but for some reason you've appointed yourself as the spokesman for 'average users' and indict the rest of us as selfish. > I got the feeling that most core LyX developers are working at > universities and institutes while the majority of users have business > jobs where time matters. If so, then maybe they should do something to support development. Like pay for it. Riki
