Enter in mathed :
aaaaaaaa lim bbbbbbbb Where lim is \lim, and they are sub/superscripts. Now select the whole math and change it to over/under in the math panel : aaaaaaaa lim bbbbbbbb Now select the entire range of a's and press backspace (or delete). You get : bbbbbbbb Where did lim go ? Behaves differently if you save before the deletion regards john -- "This *is* Usenet, after all, where virtually every conversation that goes on is fairly ludicrous in the first place." - Godwin's Law FAQ