On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 10:35:44AM -0400, Alexander Dunlap wrote:
> On Apr 5 2025, at 10:31 am, Scott Kostyshak <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 10:15:00AM -0400, Alexander Dunlap wrote:
> > > On Apr 5 2025, at 9:55 am, Scott Kostyshak <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 09:27:29AM -0400, Alexander Dunlap wrote:
> > > > > On Apr 5 2025, at 5:47 am, Scott Kostyshak <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 05:15:00AM +0200, Anders Ekberg via 
> > > > > > lyx-users wrote:
> > > > > > > 5 apr. 2025 kl. 00:13 skrev Paul Verschueren 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott - Yes, absolutely definitely!!!
> > > > > > > > Great idea!
> > > > > > > > Paul
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: lyx-users <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> > > > > > > > Scott Kostyshak
> > > > > > > > Sent: 04 April 2025 23:09
> > > > > > > > To: LyX Users <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > Subject: Export to an archive for arXiv submission?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anyone make submissions to https://arxiv.org/ ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I wonder if it would be useful to have an easy way to export to 
> > > > > > > > a .tar.gz, or zip, that is easily uploadable to arXiv.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would this be useful to others?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > --
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> > > > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > > > https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doesn’t the export to LyX Archive do exactly that?
> > > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very similar, but LyX Archive includes a .lyx file. It is for 
> > > > > > sharing
> > > > > > with someone who uses LyX. arXiv wants a .tex file that has nothing 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > do with LyX.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, arXiv has some other requirements. I don't know it well, but I
> > > > > > think a bbl needs to be included. We also have a script 
> > > > > > include_bib.py,
> > > > > > which I think can be used to get it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Indeed hopefully the code in the LyX archive script and the 
> > > > > > include_bib
> > > > > > script could be shared, since they already does the needed work of
> > > > > > collecting the dependencies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > The script https://github.com/djsutherland/arxiv-collector does an 
> > > > > excellent job of this for LaTeX files in my experience.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, I didn't know about that and it indeed seems very useful!
> > > > I wonder how it is able to get around the big biblatex issue, that is 
> > > > avoid this message:
> > > > Package biblatex Warning: File '.bbl' is wrong format version
> > > > From what I understood, I thought that if you use biblatex you have to
> > > > use the same biblatex version that arXiv uses (e.g., currently whatever
> > > > version is in TeX Live 2023 now). But now I'm wondering if I
> > > > misunderstood something.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I believe it just includes all of the necessary biblatex files in the 
> > > tarball, so it is not depending on the arXiv version of the biblatex 
> > > files at all.
> >
> > Interesting! On arXiv's docs 
> > (https://info.arxiv.org/help/submit_tex.html#biblatex), they state:
> > When uploading the .bbl file for biblatex, it must be compatible with
> > the version of biblatex or Biber on the arXiv at the present time. If
> > your .bbl for biblatex is not compatible then your submission will
> > have errors.
> >
> > But maybe the point is that arxiv-collector doesn't upload a .bbl and
> > works around it by putting it directly in the document or something
> > along those lines. No matter how they achieve it, it sounds like a very
> > useful feature.
> >
> > Scott
> 
> It does include a bbl, but it also includes copies of all of the biblatex 
> style files, i.e. biblatex.sty, blx-case-expl3.sty, blx-compat.def, 
> blx-dm.def, english.lbx, standard.bbx, biblatex.cfg, biblatex.def, 
> numeric.cbx on the most recent upload I did. So the arXiv version of biblatex 
> is not used at all because it's shadowed by the version that is included with 
> the upload.
> Alex

Perfect! It's very helpful to know these details and that it worked for
you. Thanks for your explanations. I'm convinced now :).

Scott

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