Hi all, I agree with much of what has been said.
Another thing which *diffuses* LyX into the academia is just pure*advertising * - I'm using Murat's words. For example, I am advertising LyX to all my students and colleagues. Maybe a good thing is for all those that like LyX, to do something similar. See example: http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/research/phds/3rd_year/yerushalmi/computing/lyx In the economics department at Warwick University we have many LyX "converts". I really love LyX and thanks to it, have stopped writing by hand. Erez On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Murat Yildizoglu < murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr> wrote: > I definitely support Ken's proposition. SWP really makes a huge mess > with the latex file (even if the file is compilable by a standar Latex > engine - I use the same TexLive 2005 with SWP and LyX). The > possibility of easily switching to LyX can have some importance > consequences on a larger diffusion of LyX in the academia. > > Murat > > 2009/2/4 Ken <kmai...@googlemail.com>: > > It was a few months ago that I went through the hassle of > import/exporting > > between LyX and SWP. Yes, SWP can export to "portable" latex, but it was > > not all that portable. However with a few tweaks it was possible to get > a > > decent import into LyX. (I think there is a wiki page on it with regards > to > > custom macros and images and I recall having a few other small issues). > > > > The much harder problem was getting LyX documents into SWP. I can't > > remember exactly but SWP didn't like certain table formats. Any attempt > to > > import the tex file would cause SWP to balloon in memory requirements and > > hog the CPU until it either crashed the machine or I killed the process. > > > > In the end the inflexible SWP won as the default application. But it is > so > > hard to go from amazing-and-free LyX to cumbersome-buggy-and-expensive > SWP. > > In fact, I would have much much rather just edited the raw text file than > > use SWP (but even that was a nightmare as SWP adds line breaks to its > text > > file making 'diff' imposible to use). > > > > Again, I suppose my recommendation would be to make it as easy as > possible > > to have users move from SWP to LyX (and it isnt that bad at the moment) > but > > it probably isnt worth the time or energy to make LyX documents > compatible > > with SWP. I honestly think that once one writes a single paper with LyX > > they will never go back SWP (but getting them to do that first paper is > the > > hard bit). > > > > -Ken > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/3 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <lasgout...@lyx.org> > > > >> I have worked with a co-author that insists on using Scientific Word. > My > >>> experience is that not only is SW/SWP very expensive, I also find it a > far > >>> inferior product to LyX. It is not easy to import documents from SWP > and > >>> even > >>> harder to export them to SWP even though they are both LaTeX editors. > At > >>> the > >>> university, SWP is available as a standard install on machines but not > >>> LyX. > >>> > >> > >> Is it still true that swp is able to export 'portable latex' or > whatever, > >> that > >> is easier to import? How does LyX fare with that? > >> > >> JMarc > >> > > > > > > -- > *** NEW UNIVERSITY, NEW ADDRESS ! *** > > Prof. Murat Yildizoglu > Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3) > GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579) > Centre de la Vieille Charité > 2, rue de la Charité > 13236 Marseille cedex 02 > > Bureau 320 > Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard) > Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat) > Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau) > Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27 > > e-mail: murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr > www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html > ______________________________________________ > -- Erez Yerushalmi PhD Student Warwick University, UK http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/research/phds/3rd_year/yerushalmi
