I perfectly understand that when the user invokes maven with a phase name,
as it stands today, all the preceding phases are run. It is also true that
you can invoke a single goal by specifying it. You can specify multiple
goals also. With the new syntax of being able to pass the execution id
along with the goal you can also run non default-* it is basically possible
to run any specific goal. (See:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-5768 as implemented in Maven
3.3.1.

I think you may agree that a single goal execution is basically
random-access. What I am proposing is simply a shortcut, self maintaining
way to invoke each of these goals by simply specifying the phases. The
phases of a lifecycle are more stable. Goals generally are configured in
poms and are thus may change over time.

Granted, this may not work for users 100% of the time but when it works it
is useful IMO.

I had mentioned in one of the previous blog entries that I was in-fact
inspired by the Lifecycle mapping functionality of M2E.

I also agree that this belongs may be at the maven level via some
modified/extended syntax of maven CLI. However when I attempted to enhance
the

> mvn help:describe --Dcmd=somephase

I did not get far. So I was able to put this together with M2E fragment -
based on the code I saw in Life Cycle Mapping property page in M2E. This
renders the use of my fragment to interactive use for now.

It is possible that this idea is too radical for M2E or maven community in
which case it will have a deserved rejection in the marketplace of ideas :)

I will update my blog entry and the bugzilla to explain the thinking behind
this better.

Hope this clarifies where I am coming from at this.

Cheers,
Sandip


On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Endo Alejandro <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Without understanding 100%, this sounds like it would be VERY brittle.
> What exactly are you trying to accomplish with the new functionality? I
> didn’t see that in your blog post
>
>
>
> Also, AFAIK, maven core doesn’t support running only parts of its
> lifecycle, how can your patch do that? (e.g. run “package” without running
> “compile” first). Maybe if you explain a bit how this fits maven (nothing
> to do with m2e) then we can understand better, but it sounds like you are
> just breaking the maven lifecycle, or am I missing something? A lot of
> plugins and mental models assume that the lifecycle is linear, not
> “random-access”
>
>
>
> BTW, all that was about running particular phases without their previous
> ones. The first part about listing the mojos in each phase is very useful,
> but I also wonder how it’s different from the current m2e functionality on
> “Lifecycle Mapping”.
>
>
>
> Once I/we understand better I/we can give a more informed opinion.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
>
>
> Alejandro
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sandip Chitale
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2015 07:53 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [m2e-users] Comments on Bug 470138
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> I am trying to gauge support for feature like
>
>
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=470138
>
>
>
> Can the community please comment on the bug. In a nutshell the idea is to
> be able to run selective phases (sans preceding phases) of a pom.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Sandip
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