While trying not to go off-topic, I just wanted to say I gave feedback via outlook.com's site, though I doubt they'd even consider it, so I also posted to their community forum regarding it so it at least gets public notice. This whole standards thing reminds me of the problems Internet Explorer would have with going their own way and sites needing to submit. I actually switched to Chrome and another email provider while still holding on to my hotmail account for spam. I've also been working on building linux-from-scratch, but going the git-way around it (instead of tarballs) and eventually plan on dropping Windows altogether.
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Eric Blake <[email protected]> wrote: > On 04/04/2014 02:22 PM, Nathan wrote: > > Wow, so it is just me, or rather outlook.com. > > That's the problem. outlook.com is one of those sites that doesn't > believe in following open standards, and intentionally disobeys RFCs on > how to send proper mail. > > Many technical users prefer native mail clients (such as Thunderbird or > mutt) precisely because these open source mail clients care about > standards and stand a decent chance at being formatted correctly, unlike > web mail providers that provide convenience at the expense of horrible > non-compliance. (And while we're at it, most technical lists also frown > on top-posting, which is another thing that most web mail sites > unfortunately tend to promote, although that is more a matter of > preference and not a standardized RFC) > > > > > This is clearly a problem. Who should it be directed to? > > The problem is on your end, for your choice of mail client. And since > your choice of mail client isn't free software, good luck in getting it > fixed (it may be a free download, but it does not give you the right to > look at the source code implementing it to fix the non-compliance > issues, so you are at the mercy of the outlook.com owner ever deciding > to become more standards-compliance, which is unlikely). > > > I think the conversation should be between the email server maintainers > > (gnu, outlook). > > A conversation between server owners won't make a difference. The > problem is not in GNU's servers. > > -- > Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 > Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org > >
