Like Jerry said "I love what he said" moble accessibility is not
needed for ICS or jelly bean.  I have MA installed on my phone but
outside of it pushing back the touch wiz in a call it never gets used.
 Personally if you need help ask one of us on here or the eyes-free
list to help you.  Heck add me to heytel or zelo I would be more then
glad to help when I can.  Zello has a eyes-free channel that a person
"kyle" made for android accessible questions  Look for "eyes-free" you
will find it.  Like Jerry said, I to can kiss off the $100 I paid for
MA seeings how I do not use gingerbred or lower.

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> From: "Omar Binno" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
> To: "'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'"
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> Thank you. One other question, the phone is not upgradable to jb yet, but
> it
> is upgradable to icecream sandwitch. Will I need mobile accessibility with
> icecream sandwitch?
>
>
> Omar Binno
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> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:23 PM
> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
> Subject: Re: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
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> With Jelly Bean, there is no need for Mobile Accessibility.  Talkback or
> Spiel will fill your needs.
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> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:28:12 -0400
> From: "Jarrod Jicha" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
> To: "'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'"
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> My thoughts? MA is completely and totally a waist of time, and completely
> useless in ICS, and Jellybean! CF has not made serious updates to MA for
> people that use ICS, or Jellybean, and I think this is just atroshis!
> Personally I woulde love to use MA, if for no other reason but the voice!
> However, it is a joke in ICS, and higher!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: [email protected]
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:32 PM
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> Subject: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
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>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I got a Motorola Droid 4 through verizon several months ago but never
> activated it. I'm getting ready to activate it now and wanted to get some
> feedback on something. My sighted brother also has a droid phone which is
> upgraded to the Jellybean droid. He says that he tried the built-in screen
> reader with Jellybean and that it works with everything; including texting,
> emails, browsing, etc, and he feels that purchasing mobile speak is
> unnecessary. My droid 4 is upgradable to Jellybean also. Of course, this is
> coming from someone sighted, so the input is questionable. What are some
> thoughts on this?
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>
>
> Thanks for any and all help.
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> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:28:49 -0400
> From: "Jarrod Jicha" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
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> Actually spiel doesn’t work in JB jst yet, for what I have heard.  I don’t
> have JB, but I do follow another list, wair people have talked about it.
>
>
>
>
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> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:23 PM
> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
> Subject: Re: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
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> With Jelly Bean, there is no need for Mobile Accessibility.  Talkback or
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> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:33:31 -0400
> From: "Jarrod Jicha" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
> To: "'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'"
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> Again, you don't need MA with ICS. It is a total waist of time in ICS, and
> I
> really wish that CF would actually listen to there customewrs for a change!
> Braille mode? Big deal! Who cairs!  Come on! Why not make something that
> is,
> oh, I don't know, how about usefull, like a virtual d-pad in there
> keyboard,
> like the eyes-free keyboard has? As most of us   know we can't use MA with
> the eyes free keyboard at all! And in ICS sometimes there are times, when
> using the d-pad in eyes free keyboard is a bit easier. But if you are using
> MA, you can forget it! You can't even type with the eyes-free keyboard if
> you use MA as your screen reader. You just hear blank blank blank blank
>
>
>
> Lets also talk about the proximity sensor!  It don't work outside of the MA
> apps in ICS.  I have tried it on two phones that have ICS, and when you are
> outside of MA's apps, the proximity sensor doesn't stop the speech at all!
>
>
>
> I could go on and on, but I bet you have all heard, and seen enough.
> Personally? I would love to use MA again because I love the voice.  But
> until CF actually takes some time, and puts some effort into MA for ICS and
> higher, I guess I can kiss that 100 goodbye!
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Omar Binno
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:12 AM
> To: 'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'
> Subject: RE: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
>
>
>
> Thank you. One other question, the phone is not upgradable to jb yet, but
> it
> is upgradable to icecream sandwitch. Will I need mobile accessibility with
> icecream sandwitch?
>
>
>
> Omar Binno
>
> Website: www.bigoproductions.net
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:23 PM
> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
> Subject: Re: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
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> With Jelly Bean, there is no need for Mobile Accessibility.  Talkback or
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