David,

Gordon is right (as usual, but don't tell him that as it will go to his smoggy 
head) :)

I a using Lion and for the most part its working fine.  Actually VO has not 
crashed on me at all yet, seems more stable than SL.  I was having a few 
teething problems with Mail, but I now do things a bit differently and all 
seems ok.  Am sure the minor bugs will be fixed.  There are a couple of minor 
bugs with Safari, but they are minor and the iTunes bug is minor, but that is 
not the cause of Lion.

There are other aspects to Lion that work much better than before.

Some people have reported sluggishness with it, am not finding that, and Mail 
is not sluggish for me either, and I have about 300 messages still sitting in 
my inbox (too lazy to move them).

The only thing I hate about the Mac is the number of productive apps is less 
than on the Windows side.  I am not a fan of i(can't)Work either to be honest, 
but that is just my opinion of it.  I don't like jumping through hoops to make 
apps work, I just like to simply use them without any fuss.

Also bare in mind, if you still need access to some Windows stuff, you can run 
Windows on your Mac like I have to do for various web stuff I do which I simply 
can't do on the Mac due to lack of VO support.

Chris 
On 1 Aug 2011, at 11:33, Gordon Smith wrote:

> David
> 
> The issues only really affect Lion Server, not the regular edition that you'd 
> get.
> 
> Don't be put off by the pessimists.  Those who can't get it working and so, 
> unreservedly, just condemn.
> 
> I'm having horrendous problems with Lion Server; but let me tell you that 
> there's far more that's right about Lion than wrong.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 1 Aug 2011, at 07:37, David Griffith wrote:
> 
> The torrent of issues with Lion reported on this list over the last few days
> has slightly shaken my confidence in the Mac. I was going to order my I Mac
> today. I do not think I will be doing so now. Certainly mails with subjects
> like Shame on you Apple are food for thought.
> Now it  seems sensible to hold on any order until at least some of these
> issues are resolved. The  issues about difficulties with Mail and Safari web
> browsing and RSS are particularly worrying . These are core basic functions
> I need an accessible computer to work well with. Certainly for the money
> Apple are asking me for.
> It will be a challenge  getting to grips with a new system anyway without
> also having to grapple with accessibility bugs at the same time.
> It will also be annoying if the first thing I have to do is apply corrective
> upgrades and patches. Ideally you should be able to return to the original
> install confident everything works well.
> 
> This is disappointing as part of my reason for moving to the Mac was the
> belief that it had in built in accessibility upgrades.  Now it seems
> upgrades include risks of accessibility lock out just as much as evident on
> Windows machines over the years.
> 
> Any comments
> 
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