only started playing with it yesterday. Very straightforward. Whether it captures rich media well is open to debate. On 5 Oct 2011, at 16:35, Carolyn Wagner wrote:
> Have you had much experience with using it within the browser in the mac os? > Any known issues? > On Oct 5, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> It's actually both. It comes as part of the OS which is installed on >> various netbooks etc but it's also a chrome extension available in the >> chrome webstore. >> >> hth. >> On 5 Oct 2011, at 16:22, Carolyn Wagner wrote: >> >>> Can you confirm that Chrome Vox is part of the Chrome OS available on >>> certain hardware devices, and not an add-on to the Chrome browser, which I >>> occasionally use on my mac? >>> On Oct 4, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> The first thing to say about this is that it is a very very interesting >>>> concept indeed. However, given the person who designed it (T. V. Raman) >>>> it's not really a surprise. He has always been extraordinarily creative. >>>> >>>> Before proceeding, I should point out that the chrome add-on uses ctrl-alt >>>> as modifier keys. These are the same as the VO keys. >>>> >>>> 1. navigation. >>>> >>>> I like the way that a granularity of navigation exists. For those who >>>> haven't used Chrome Vox, you can essentially navigate a page by group, >>>> object, sentence word or character. So you can skim (metaphorically) over >>>> a page, find the portion you're looking for then "zoom in" (to plagiarise >>>> a phrase from the user-manual). >>>> >>>> 2. The use of keyboard mnemonics follows a fairly typical process. >>>> However, they've gone for letter sequences rather than single-keystrokes. >>>> So for example, to get to the next heading, you press ctrl-alt-n (followed >>>> by) ctrl-alt-h. On chrome-os netbooks, there is an equivalent to >>>> "key-lock" on VO. I haven't used it on the mac yet, though I'm assured >>>> it's there. >>>> >>>> 3. I find table navigation cumbersome. One can switch to a "table mode" >>>> however, while in this, in order to move to adjacent cells, one has to >>>> execute a command like ctrl-alt-t (followed by) ctrl-alt-(arrow); where >>>> arrow is the direction you wish to move to. Now I understand the logic, >>>> I'm just not a big fan. >>>> >>>> What I think is missing from this is the ability to limit verbosity. >>>> Chrome-vox uses earcons (like VO's sounds) to enhance the spoken >>>> utterance. I don't like them and can't find a way to turn them off. >>>> Secondly, each time I load chrome, the speech settings have adjusted >>>> themselves back to default rate, volume and pitch. Now I'd be amazed if >>>> they can't be set and stored, I just haven't come across the settings yet. >>>> >>>> All in all it is good and interesting software, and I think that in future >>>> iterations it will prove to be a good and viable alternative. For me, >>>> Safari does the job adequately, but I'll keep playing with it. I can >>>> easily see how people like Kevin would find it productive; I look forward >>>> to trying it with google-docs. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Dónal >>>> Dónal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access@mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access@mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >> >> Dónal Fitzpatrick >> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access@mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access@mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. 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