I'm in the same mode gordon.  Basically I want the ability to kill *all* vo 
sounds instead of speech.  I've asked Apple about this, but like many of my 
queries to accessibility over the past two weeks, the mail was ignored.

Dónal
On 13 Oct 2011, at 14:06, Gordon Smith wrote:

> Hi Donal
> 
> Int's been a while since I did this, because I must confess I use an 
> Bluetooth keyboard most of the time instead of the on-screen version.  But my 
> iPad is in a mode where by touching a  letter doesn't actually cause it to be 
> activated. You have to actually lift your finger off the screen a little for 
> that letter to be typed.  But the point is that the sound is different.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 13 Oct 2011, at 14:00, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
> Hi Lynne,
> 
> Apologies I sent that last mail in a rush as I had to go teach a class; oddly 
> enough about user-interaction and interface design which is always fun.  The 
> sounds I'm talking about are the VO sounds.  When "mute" is on, there are 
> none and I find I can operate the device faster.  I've even done some task 
> analysis on myself and (though this is only a sample-size of 1) I'm 
> definitely more efficient.
> 
> So let's say I'm in touch-typing mode and I miss the D key but hit the S.  
> When I slide to the right I hear a click.  This same click happens when one 
> moves from icon to icon on the home screen etc.  I *loath* these extra 
> sounds. 
> 
> Rant over!
> On 13 Oct 2011, at 12:50, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
> 
>> Hello Donal
>> 
>> In the case of your keyboard clicks, can't you turn them off by changing the 
>> typing mode to touch type? Or is it from Touch type? You know what I mean; 
>> the mode where you slide your finger along and when you lift it, it 
>> automatically adds the character. From memory; and please correct me if I am 
>> wrong, but I don't think you get those clicks then.
>> 
>> Personally I don't much care for the clicks either; but i can see why some 
>> might like them and why Apple sees them as a "Must-have" It must be 
>> difficult for somebody who is blind and new to the OS to know when they have 
>> moved their finger sufficiently.
>> 
>> I'm not blind and that's why I haven't voiced my opinion on this until now. 
>> I can totally understand why a visually impaired person might like these.
>> 
>> I know that Gordon finds them irritating when trying to create a text 
>> message.
>> 
>> Lynne
>> 
>> On 13 Oct 2011, at 12:27, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> OK I may have missed something, but I'm slightly disappointed by the fact 
>> that the clicks, beeps and pings Apple assumes every blind user wants to 
>> here are still a part of the IOS experience.  I personally hate, for 
>> example, the click when I move my finger across the keyboard.  (one can turn 
>> off keyboard sounds in the sounds section but not the VO ones).  I love, for 
>> example, to keep my phone on mute because then I can just hear the speech 
>> and none of this extraneous cr*p apple assumes I want to hear.  
>> 
>> I appreciate I'm probably in a minority here, but surely it can't be 
>> difficult to give the user some control over what they want to hear?
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