Hi Lew and Others,

Anne has explained why you don't see messages posted to this list when you use 
Gmail, and Colin has described a way to get copies of the posts into your inbox 
by using the BCC (blind carbon copy) field.  However, I'll just point out that 
another way to check that your posts have shown up on this list is to check the 
Mail Archive secondary web pages for this list at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/
Posts sent to the mac-access list show up there fairly promptly (I'd say within 
half an hour under most conditions).  This resource works even better as a way 
of searching the archives, and quickly reading up and down the old threads to 
understand the context of the discussions.  I use it for recent archive 
searches in preference to the main archive URL that is also given in the links 
at the end of each list posting, simply because the search options are so good. 
 That's probably worth a separate later post directly on the subject of how to 
get the most out of the archives, but I'll just mention that apart from typing 
search terms into the text box, which can include wild cards, you can also 
include arguments to search by author or even date range.

So, as a quick example, if I want to search for all posts by "Mr. L. Alexander" 
at the Mail Archive pages for this list, I could type:
from: Alexander
into the text box and press return.  The indexing for this type of search is 
done one or twice a day, so it won't yet include the many posts from this 
morning, but you'll get links to all of your earlier posts from yesterday 
asking about Outspoken, along with a brief excerpt from your posts.

The name that I type after the "from:" argument should match the contents of 
the "From" field in the eMail, and can either be part of the field, or the 
whole field, including blank characters, as long as I include the name in 
quotation marks to accommodate the blank characters.  Case doesn't matter, and 
I can leave spaces after the "from:" as long as there is a colon immediately 
after the word "from" and the name.  In the case of Colin's posts, since he 
posts his messages as coming from "Red.Falcon", I'd probably use a search like:
from: Red*
to find his posts.  (That's because sometimes his posts have extra spaces 
around the period separating "Red" and "Falcon").

HTH.  Sorry I couldn't answer the question about where to find OutSPOKEN CDs.  
As far as I know, your best bet is to try to get a copy from one of the 
musicians who hoarded these to use on the G4 PowerPC Macs that could run both 
OS 9 and Mac OS X over that long period of time before Pro Tools became 
accessible.  You probably already knew that.  I don't think that even Lou 
Grosso of the old Alva Access Group knows where they can be found now.

Cheers,

Esther  

On Nov 18, 2011, at 10:24, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Also you can set your mail to [and I quote] BCC yourself if you have your own 
> card in address book!
> Do not use CC because it will be rejected!
> This setting will give you a copy of all messages sent by Gmail!
> hth Colin
> Qapla!
> 
> On 18 Nov 2011, at 19:54, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
> 
>> Oopse, forgot to switch accounts; sorry.
>> 
>> Lynne
>> 
>> On 18 Nov 2011, at 19:53, Gordon Smith wrote:
>> 
>> He's welcome to an account here if he wants one. As are any other members 
>> whether currently using gmail or not. We offer them for free, and they are 
>> totally secure.
>> 
>> Lynne
>> 
>> On 18 Nov 2011, at 19:43, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>> You are not seeing your messages on the list because you're using GMail. 
>> GMail thinks you know what you've sent and don't need to see your own 
>> messages.  Use a different outgoing server and your messages will show up.
>> 
>> 
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