well thats all well and good as a track pad, you're talking to a tech who's 
used apple laptops since the track pad came out in the 90s

What I mean is and as a practial sense and going back to my days in tech 
programming, etc. there are certain areas where a full size touch screen can 
give you a better feel for certain aspects. say as an example, you'd like to 
know a window position by feel, you could tap and voiceover would give you the 
help from that point. as you do on the iphone and ipad. but on a larger 
environment.

I for one would use that kind of interface where speed is useful in a repair 
aspect.

think of it like a POA system (point of access  point of sale system)

just a thought

lew
FreeMacsForTheBlind.

On a rant.... bring back the older apple mac designs. I miss those old girls.

On 26 Nov 2011, at 19:53, Bubba wrote:

> The mac has a touch screen it is built into the Mac Book pro called track
> pad. This is apple solution to the touch screen as Steve has said as a touch
> screen that is not lying flat would be comfortable and would not use it as
> having to hold up your arms and hands to touch the screen. As the track pad
> is lying flat and is much more comfortable to use. JMT 
> 
> 
> Bubba
> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 8:10 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Mac feel natural
> 
> It's alright garth, no worries.
> 
> to be honest, you've just cheered me up lol. Running the organization is a
> stressful thing, especially when it comes to contact with companies, supply
> chains and clearance bases for parts, machines, software, etc.
> 
> I agree on the points you've raised.
> 
> the whole ppoint of a computer or data system is the development and use of
> a HUI (Human user interface)
> 
> going back to the days when the mouse slowly crept into system use,
> everything was purely keyboard based to run applications, perform simple and
> complex tasks.
> 
> moving through the years, IT has changed dramatically, from OS
> implementation, accessibility and so much more, so yes there's going to be a
> point where we VI and blind users have a difficult time mastering the
> various shortcuts for a screen reader as well as the OS in general.
> 
> I can refer to my days for a while using JAWS as well as system programming,
> etc. If anyone asked me how to use jaws these days, I'd have no clue. I
> can't even remember the windows shortcut mappings anymore, so need to study
> again lol.
> 
> when it comes to the iphone, ipad, etc, this is another step forward indeed.
> we now have a tactile interface to a screen reader. "Reach out and touch"
> design certainly opens up new doors to mobile devices and makes a massive
> game change and I'm glad to say. I love it.
> 
> On a design thought, why not give the macbook pro a boost. give us a touch
> screen interface as well as the usual keyboard and mouse interface. it would
> give us a better feel and understanding of what is actually on screen rather
> than just listening to the UI through shortcuts. that's one of the points
> behind the iphone and ipad and it's a winner for me.
> 
> anyway enough from me. people to contact, a part lookup to do and a request
> for an old apple powerbook display for a broken powerbook about to be
> assigned to a new owner.
> 
> take care all and it's nice to have a home here to help.
> 
> lew
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