Hi Justin

Nope!  Tried that.  I'm seeing what I should see for the headers but the 
download links are gone when I try to navigate using the VoiceOver method even 
with that option disabled.  Tried it a while back but I just did so again.

Gordon

On 27 Jul 2012, at 17:46, Justin Ekis <je...@me.com> wrote:

Now I remember this. In voiceover utility, select the verbosity category and 
then select the announcements tab. Uncheck the checkbox for "Speak header when 
navigating across a table row. Now dealing with the list of books is musch 
easier. Find the column with the names of your books, navigate down the table 
until you reach the book you want, then navigate right for the download links.

I've seen a few sites with tables that are formatted in such a way as to 
produce weird behavior with this setting on. Most annoying are some tables on 
wikipedia. Most of the time, I want the setting on, but some sites need it off. 
In the activities category of Voiceover utility, I made a copy of my normal web 
browsing activity and named it Web with bad tables. Since it was a copy, it 
already had the settings I like to use on web sites. In adition, I turned off 
the speaking of table headers. Now, when I find a site that has one of these, I 
just press command option X and choose the appropriate activity.

Hope this helps.

Justin

On Jul 27, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> Hi again group
> 
> I've just tried the Take Control website again and noticed something 
> extremely odd.  If I try to navigate the site using VoiceOver, I just keep 
> hearing:
> "|Click the PDF, ePub or Mobi download link in the free downloads column"  as 
> I move but, if I use the tab key to move between link elements, I get the 
> download links.  The problem with doing it this way is that you have no idea 
> of what book yore about to download, so it's lucky dip.  I've tried this in 
> DOM and groups mode, with Live Regions turned on and off, same results each 
> time.
> 
> Gordon
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