hi every one why can't apple put alex on a i device krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
On 30/09/2012, at 11:27 PM, Lyn & her faithful furry friends <helian...@mac-access.net> wrote: >> Well I personally don't agree about Carin, I really hate this voice, it >> really gets on my nerves. I much prefer Samantha which I use on my IDevices >> as well as on the mac but of course, different people, different tastes >> which is fine of course. As a non native English speaker, I tend to prefer >> American voices in general. My favorite of course is Alex I must admit and I >> use Alex along with Samantha. >> >> Lyn, Canelle & Epi >> On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Missy Hoppe <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds >>> so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen >>> Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to >>> capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with >>> the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let >>> me; don't know why, but I've always had a very >>> strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen >>> for siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver >>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant >>> [Was "so wish apple had done this"] >>> >>> I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's >>> the one I find most listenable. I would prefer, >>> however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find >>> Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of >>> intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any >>> justice. >>> >>> On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, "Missy Hoppe" <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I >>>> have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. >>>> I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the >>>> vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer >>>> Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; >>> with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate >>>> Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] >>>> >>>> from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems >>>> to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether >>>> online or otherwise. >>>> I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each >>>> bit as I read it. >>>> you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the >>>> vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. >>>> As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. >>>> While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and >>>> good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's >>>> far better out there. >>>> Just my thoughts on the matter. >>>> >>>> On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, "Debbie April Yuille" >>>> <debbieyui...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch >>>>> you can still understand it quite well. >>>>> >>>>> I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not >>>>> in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be >>>>> corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. >>>>> >>>>> Debbie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas >>>>> Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM >>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate >>>>> Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] >>>>> >>>>> just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable >>>>> really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky >>>>> when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am greatful for all this as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn & her faithful furry friends wrote: >>>>>>>> I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said >>>>>>>> it >>>>> better. >>>>>>>> all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making >>>>>>>> your >>>>> products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are >>>>> disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever >>>>> since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just >>>>> like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which >>>>> constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and >>>>> all my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not >>>>> something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being >>>>> able to buy a computer, a phone.. >>>>> that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a >>>>> sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at >>>>> the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all >>>>> the hard work. >>>>> Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all >>>>> be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this >>>>> is the only way they will know what problems >>>>>> we are >>>>>> having. >>>>>>>> Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen >>>>>>>> readers >>>>> and the other platform. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lyn, Canelle & Epi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith >>>>> <ly...@mac-access.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Missy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly >>>>>>>>> not >>>>> trying to involve anybody in a "My toy's better than yours" debate. >>>>> What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their >>>>> choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is >>>>> here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to >>>>> see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in >>>>> many cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and >>>>> whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very >>>>> welcome here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lynne >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, "Missy Hoppe" <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take >>>>>>>>> full >>>>> advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web >>>>>>>>> browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader >>>>> developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or >>>>>>>>> stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers >>>>>>>>> properly. It >>>>> always frustrates me when I see any product being >>>>>>>>> bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I >>>>> personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights >>>>>>>>> or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making >>>>>>>>> any >>>>> sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is >>>>>>>>> that I agree with you 100%. 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