David,
Frankly even in Bean, I can't read tables. Not only can't I read them in
Bean, I can't even create them! The dialog that lets me do so is really
strange. When I open it, I try either with the stepper, or with manually
typing into the text box the number of rows I need in the table. As soon as
I do, everything including the rows box I just tried typing into gets
dimmed. Not only that, but the row text box where I typed in that I
wanted... say... 3 rows, not only gets dimmed along with everything else,
but even odder, it resets itself to 0 rows, and basically sets all other
values as well to 0. It's totally! cockeyed! I don't get it!
Thank you kindly,
Christopher-Mark Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com>
To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:35 AM
Subject: RE: Tavles: Serious bug with Voiceover
This is, unfortunately, one of the reasons why I have not been able to
move
completely from Windows to a Mac environment. Support from Voiceover here
is
frankly dreadful. As I understand it this is a long running issue which
Apple has failed to fix.
There are various clunky workarounds including using the Numbers
spreadsheet
to read your tables, and using service commands to open the table and read
it in Text Edit. I also found that there is sometimes some basic reading
support for Tables in the free Bean Word Processor.
This is OK for the occasional table but if you have to seriously handle
and
read tables on a consistent basis with full title and row header reading
support, I do not think there is a viable Mac solution at the moment. For
example I am currently conducting a disciplinary investigation which
involves receiving multiple pages of evidence, many of which contain
audit
and other data in table format. My only practical way of handling this is
to
return to windows.
Safari can handle tables pretty well so I am sure it could be technically
achieved. It is a shame really and is so essential for serious work I
cannot
understand why Apple have not addressed this rather than focussing on the
latest visual effect.
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 28 November 2012 00:37
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Tavles: Serious bug with Voiceover
Importance: High
Hello.
I am hoping that someone from Mac-Access can help me.
I have been writing a document in Pages regarding a few topics which I am
researching. One of the things that I need to accomplish is to insert a
table into my document. I have correctly inserted the table at the
position
of my insertion point, and then proceeded to enter the table's data. I am
determining however that Voiceover is refusing to read anything within the
table area. If I use my arrow keys to navigate through the document, I
only
hear "new line" when the table is found.
I have attempted using VO+R as well as VO+Command+C in order to better
understand where I am located in the table. I have also tried tabbing and
Shift+tabbing through the document, in hope of finding something
identifiable. Finally, I have even tried pressing CTRL+Command+T to move
to
the next table. This presented no success.
I have attempted to create tables with Pages as well as with Text Edit and
have experienced this strange behavior using both applications. Any help
with this issue would be appreciated. Have a pleasant day.
Cordially,
Chris Gilland.
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