Please keep in mind that .Mac-Access is an iOS & OS X group; Windows Discussion is strictly off topic and will no longer be tolerated.
Hi Lyn There are actually some valid reasons why people need to install the other OS. And we would certainly not try to dispute that. However, we provide other areas, (most especially our sister group "Windows-Access") where people are free to discuss this stuff. We too are becoming tired of the sometimes flagrant breeches of list policy. We also are going to find our time far more thinly spread in the coming weeks. Therefore, the only solution is that of 0 tolerance. So, we now formally invite anybody wishing to discuss Windows either under Boot Camp, Fusion, Parallels or anything else, to join both or either of our sister groups. I will only send this once. Our general technology group is called "Techno-Chat". That group covers absolutely anything related to technology, including Windows. The group's address to join is: techno-chat-requ...@techno-chat.net and anybody is more than welcome. Our other group is a dedicated sister group to Mac Access. Dealing exclusively with Windows-related content, this group is small but growing. Again, we cordially invite any member to join that group. The subscription address is: windows-acc...@techno-chat.net and again, we invite all members to join. We have received a number of feedback messages on this topic off list and we are seriously considering all of them. In the mean time, to keep this issue at the forefront of the mind when posting messages, I have added a small header which, I hope, will be unobtrusive yet still sufficiently visible. Lynne On 27 Jan 2013, at 05:21, Lyn & her faithful furry friends <helian...@mac-access.net> wrote: Thanks for that…personally really getting tired of all this windows stuff on this list. Thought of leaving the group but I learn so much from it so won't do that. I still don't understand why people get a mac if they are going to install windows on it, why not just stick to a PC in that case? You'll never learn how to use your mac if all you want is to use Windows on it. Sorry for my rant. Lyn, Canelle & Epi On Jan 27, 2013, at 4:14 AM, "Gordon, Lynne & Tracy" <supp...@mac-access.net> wrote: > Hello everybody > > Please refrain from discussing Windows material on this list. Be aware that > this is a Mac group and, as is clearly stated in the list policy document > which every member was sent upon subscription to this group, we do not accept > the discussion of Windows configurations or any other non-Apple material. > > Please don't take this in any way personally. But we have to implement list > policy strictly otherwise we would find the group rapidly losing members. We > do not want this group to follow so many others which have fallen into kayos > because they permit anything at all regardless of topical guidelines. So, if > you wouldn't mind, please do not continue this thread. Anybody who responds > to this thread with advice pertaining to Windows is equally at fault here. > Unfortunately we are going to have to come down hard on repeated offenders. > Please don't make that something we have to do here because we really don't > want to do it. But we must stress very strongly the need for this group to be > disciplined for the good of the group as a whole. We know that there are > members who are really tired of this sort of reminder being posted and > equally tired of the Windows stuff being raised. So let's try not to have > this happen again, please! The next person to offend in this way will most > likely fi > nd themselves in moderation. > > It's true that the configuration of a virtual environment is a bit of a grey > area. However, we do clarify this in the list policy document. We just don't > know what else we can do to persuade people to comply! > > I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but this really is becoming a very tedious > reminder to have to post. Everybody was sent the list policy document, so we > cannot accept "I didn't know", or ignorance as an excuse. If the member > concerned did not bother to read the list policy document when they joined, > that isn't our fault. So please, everybody, no more Windows questions. This > really is not the place. Ask about Fusion, Parallels, things like that, by > all means. But definitely not Jaws, Window-Eyes, NVDA and all the rest of it. > It's off topic and won't be tolerated any longer. > > To clarify, just one more time. You can discuss how to set up your virtual > machine. You can discuss how to configure VoiceOver or anything else on the > Mac side. But the configuration of Windows or any other non-Apple > applications within a non-Apple guest operating system is definitely, > absolutely most definitely, off topic. > > Again, this is nothing personal, but this is the final reminder we will post > to the group. The next person to re-offend in this way goes into moderation > mode. That option is outlined in the list policy document which, if you > didn't read it when you were sent your welcome pack, you may view at any time > by browsing to <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/Mac-Access-Welcome.html> > > Alright, that's the end of the final reminder. Yet again I am sorry to sound > harsh; but we simply don't have the time, let alone the patience, to keep > posting gentle reminders to this effect over and over again. Clearly the > message is not getting through. So next time, there's no warning, it will > just be actioned. > > If you wish to discuss this with us off list, by all means feel free to > contact us at <supp...@mac-access.net> and we will try to explain a little I > am deliberately not quoting Laurel's post below because I don't want there to > be anything personal. This is a general group reminder, and it's the final > time it will be posted. 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