Hi Kate, , Interesting that you're having issues with docuscan. I'm running that just fine here. WHat happens when you try and use it? On 2013-03-14, at 3:54 PM, cait furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks David. I'll keep this in mind. I've had a look at Docuscan and have > tested it out. I can't get it to work on my particular machine no matter > what I do. Tech support at sam net have tried and they say it's something > with my particular mac or some garbage-shrug. > that cannon scanner sounds nice. school will be over in December god > willing and then I'll be left with things like scanning the mail, so perhaps > vu scan and abby will be enough. > Cait > > On 2013-03-13, at 8:23 AM, "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Eyepal is getting quite old now. At least mine is. When I got it the Eyepal >> was pretty much the only portable digital scanning solution available. >> Nowadays there are lots more choice. >> >> I started out using Eyepal on a PC and transferred it to my Imac when I got >> that. >> If I was starting out now I would probably not get the Eyepal again, mainly >> because of the inconsistent software support. >> >> I use Abbey finereader on my Windows laptop which does a good alternative >> OCR job of recognising the images created by the Eyepal on my iMac. I >> imagine the Mac version of finereader would work just as well. >> I would probably now investigate a bespoke Mac solution if I were in your >> position, I would try to find anybody who has experience of using docuscan >> and HoverCam. >> >> If you need to do serious amounts of scanning my own view is that flatbed >> scanners just do not cut it. A digital camera system is probably essential >> . >> >> Yet in terms of OCR accuracy the best scanner I have ever used was not a >> digital camera system but a Cannon 2580 duplex document scanner. This was >> great but had the disadvantage that it could only accept loose sheets >> through its feeder. I therefore had to tear all the pages out of books to >> feed them through. Once this was done the scan was fast and accurate. This >> was worth it for the superb scanning results, especially in conjunction with >> the amazing Microsoft document scanning software, sadly no longer available. >> Of course the books were ruined for anybody else. >> Unfortunately I can find no way of getting the Mac to recognise the Canon >> DR2580. This was in its time, a specialist Trade Scanner used by print shops >> so was not that common. Vue Scan is completely unable to recognise it. No >> drivers appear to work on the Mac so I am stuck with using it with my >> Windows machines. >> I have had similar problems with my flatbed canon scanner which again the >> Mac struggle with big time. I now use only Eyepal on the Mac and use the >> Canon scanners with Windows machines. >> >> >> David Griffith >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of cait furness >> Sent: 13 March 2013 11:10 >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Moutain Lion and EyePal >> >> I couldn't see the results of the scan. I suspect that I didn't quite >> understand what I needed to do to get that to happen. Can you both scan and >> recognize with abby? or do I need both programs for this? I thought I had >> to scan with vu scan and then use abby to recognize the scan. It's been a >> while since I tried. I finally gave up and went back to k1000 since I have >> school to deal with and reams of texts to muddle through. >> thanks heaps, >> Cait >> >> On 2013-03-13, at 7:05 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> >> wrote: >> >>> Those two programs are all mac. What issues did you have? >>> >>> You're essentially spending 2K on a webcam that talks to (in my view >> anyway) only very average software. Interestingly, the mac version isn't >> even a genuine mac program it runs under WINE which needs X11. >>> On 13 Mar 2013, at 11:01, cait furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hmmm, ok. I am used to kurzweil. I had a go with abby and vu scan and >> couldn't get them to work and would just like an all mac solution. Perhaps >> I'll give abby and vu scan another shot or just stick with running a virtual >> machine then. >>>> Thanks for the tips. >>>> Cait >>>> >>>> On 2013-03-13, at 6:53 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi there, >>>>> >>>>> At over 2000 euro? not a chance. I only use it because the university >> for which I work had it lying around and I borrowed it until a student comes >> in and gets it back. I would honestly say to spend a couple of hundred of >> whatever currency you operate in, and buy a decent scanner, Vuscan and ABYY >> FineReader Express. You'll get the same results for a fraction of the cost. >>>>> >>>>> Dónal >>>>> On 13 Mar 2013, at 10:49, cait furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Besides this weirdness, would you say that i pal is worth the purchase? >>>>>> Curiously, >>>>>> Caitlyn, who is thinking of getting it later this year >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013-03-12, at 7:57 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick >> <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi David, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oops my apologies I thought I had followed up with the list on this >> one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did some work with the developers, in the form of feedback and beta >> testing on ML last year. They were actually unaware it wouldn't work till I >> pointed it out and, I must say, reacted reasonably promptly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With your permission I will let them know of the flicker issue. Can >> you give more details on what you had to change? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Again my apologies I thought I had sent a mail to this effect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best and glad it's working, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dónal >>>>>>> On 12 Mar 2013, at 23:47, David Griffith <d.griff...@btinternet.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am pleased to say that after upgrade to Mountain Lion the EyePal >> scanning software continues to function. >>>>>>>> I rmember that there was some concern that this would not be the case >> under Mountain Lion. >>>>>>>> There is a little setting up that needs to be done. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I did not do a clean install of Mountain Lion which I suspect may >> have helped me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Basically I went to the X11 utility in the Utilities folder. It did >> not appear to run but after I selected open from the context menu I got a >> message inviting me to learn about awn open source version of X11 as Apple >> were no longer developing it. >>>>>>>> I followed the link and downloaded the open source version of X11. >>>>>>>> After running the install package I Had to restart my Mac. >>>>>>>> When I then tried EyePal it opened with the new version of X11. >>>>>>>> Curiously the camera was now misbehaving and flickering. I went into >> settings and changed the flicker rate from US to Europe. This seems to have >> solved the problem for me thought it is odd that I did not have to do this >> under Lion. >>>>>>>> It is early days but the EyePal is definitely working and the >> initial impression is that the app and scanner is now more responsive than >> under Lion. >>>>>>>> A bit of good news for once. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>>> d.griff...@btinternet.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.x >>>>>>>> ml> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to >> ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free. 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