The only thing I'm worried about in pro tools anything is the note editor. You 
can sustain notes and put a lift in notes and nudge them over and stuff as I've 
seen my teacher do it, but I really don't know how accessible it would be for 
us to even remotely use it.  or at least those of us who play instruments and 
keyboards and pianos and stuff. Also automation. You might or might not need a 
control service. the studio I go to for my work has a hybrid mixer that is both 
a board and  control surface. so that helps but for those of us who don't have 
half a million dollars it will not. *smily*

I love what protools can do and how accessible it might become in the future, 
but the note editor and automation for me is the key.

This is also true in garage band as well. The same access issues arise when it 
comes to the note editor and automation of things like volume or a reverb or 
what not.  I have sent a detailed bug report to apple for the past few years to 
no avail, both through the developer website and the accessibility address. If 
we can all talk to avid and apple and get these things straightened out, then I 
think we might have something for those of us who are indi artists and have the 
equipment at home or are engineers and can work with midi with our clients. .

Take care.
On May 14, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Chris Gilland <ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote:

> Dobn't worry, I made my comment and will not be commenting further on nor off 
> list, case closed.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" 
> <d.griff...@btinternet.com>
> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 AM
> Subject: RE: ProTools 11
> 
> 
>> I have no moderator status but I would respectfully suggest that perhaps
>> this particular aspect of this discussion should be taken off list as the
>> issues raised do not seem to relate to other list members in general.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
>> Sent: 14 May 2013 12:55
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: ProTools 11
>> 
>> Gordon,
>> 
>> At this time, I'm unaware of the accessibility issues being any better.
>> 
>> I'm not meaning to be rude, and I very much earnestly hope you don't take
>> this out of context of how I mean this, as though I'm sure this may come
>> across sounding perhaps very rude, it is definitely! not my intention nor
>> what I wish to convey...
>> 
>> I've written you and Lynn both, both on and off list multiple times
>> regarding the use of ProTools.  I've sent you all privately a few recordings
>> I've done, I've agreed to set up a Skype call/phone call to demonstrate to
>> you all how the accessibility worked in Protools, and even wrote a long
>> e-mail which took me over an hour to type up, with all the accessibility
>> issues that I knew of.  I even offered you a resource for getting your
>> ProTools license you buy to work on version 10.0 which is quite usable.
>> This all being said, I keep hearing you say that you do not know about
>> accessibility, and how urgent it is that you find something very soon.  I
>> guess my question to you would be, how soon is soon?  I mean, no offense
>> intended, but we've kind of been going back and forth on the PT
>> accessibility for at least a month now, ifn ot more.  I'm still incredibly
>> willing to help you, don't get me wrong, but it just seems like all of the
>> help I'm offerring you is being ignored or unconsidered, because after all
>> thus far I've contributed to your question, in the past, I would assume that
>> you'd have a fairly decent understanding of what works vs. what doesn't.
>> Maybe not from seeing it in action, but again, I even offered that, and
>> never heard back.
>> 
>> Let me know what I can do.  I can't help you if you don't set up a rock
>> solid time with me to allow me to help/show you.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gordon Smith" <gor...@mac-access.net>
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:08 AM
>> Subject: ProTools 11
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> Has anybody tried the new ProTools and, if so, how does it come up against
>> 
>>> the issues of accessibility?  I need to find a way to produce some
>>> professional quality audio and I have yet to find an editor on any
>>> platform which will do what I need in an accessible manner.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
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