Didn't try that no, I'm currently restoring from a backup so all should work 
after a couple of hours.

On 29/06/2013, at 2:38 PM, John Gunn <g...@tznet.com> wrote:

> Dane,
> 
> Have you tried zapping the PRAM and reset SMC?
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:52 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
>> It seems that none of those commands such as holding down r to get into 
>> recovery mode or option to allow booting from another drive want to work for 
>> some reason.
>> 
>> Its most likely I'm doing something incredibly wrong <smile> but I am 
>> wondering whether its at all possible that Apple have removed these commands 
>> in recent updates?
>> 
>> 
>> On 29/06/2013, at 1:25 PM, Esther <mori...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Dane,
>>> 
>>> Do you have another account you can start up from?  I'm wondering if your 
>>> account preferences got corrupted.
>>> 
>>> Failing that, can you try attaching a bootable cloned backup disk and 
>>> rebooting from that by holding down the Option key when you power up, then  
>>> pressing either the right or left arrow key, followed by a press of the 
>>> Return key?  If the clone boots up correctly with VoiceOver active, you can 
>>> try either booting up and logging into another account on your Mac Mini's 
>>> hard drive, or maybe checking for corrupted preference files on the 
>>> original hard drive user account.  
>>> 
>>> Another option, if you've set up your Mini to permit remote login, and are 
>>> comfortable with using Terminal, is to remote login with SSH using Terminal 
>>> from another Mac.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Zachary Kline <zkl...@speedpost.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Dane,
>>>> Have you tried a system reboot with the power button followed by R? I’d 
>>>> hate to suggest it most of the time, but if VO absolutely refuses to start 
>>>> up again, it might be worth doing. it sounds as though some process 
>>>> crashed unexpectedly and the system is having trouble recovering to a sane 
>>>> state.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Zack.
>>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yep tried that, won't work for some reason but I can certainly see where 
>>>>> you're coming from.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 29/06/2013, at 12:45 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Try getting in to training mode with vo cmd f8. then if you hear, the 
>>>>>> voice over quick start, hit esc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've seen problems with Mac machines but nothing like this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I left my Mac Mini machine on overnight to finish some uploading.  When 
>>>>>>> I returned to the machine this morning it was to discover that 
>>>>>>> Voiceover had stopped working, I tried turning Voiceover on and off 
>>>>>>> using Command-f5 which usually works but no result this time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I used f11 and f12 to check the volume and heard the volume click 
>>>>>>> change every time I pressed 1 of these keys so sound device is 
>>>>>>> obviously okay, anyone any further suggestions?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This Mac Mini machine is a 2009 model running OSX Mountain Lion just in 
>>>>>>> case that all makes any difference of some sort.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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