The problem Sarah is not so much with LaTeX but with the PDFLaTeX. I won't go into a longwinded explanation, but the way it deals with PDF isn't the most accessible. I've not looked at this, but a very talented academic has and he reckons to get it working properly would take millions of (insert currency).
Cheers, Dónal On 26 Jul 2013, at 19:15, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not surprised. Looks like there is nothing that will handle such things for > those of us working on papers and books that need it. I'm not one of them > yet. that's a million years down the rode, but I'm trying to prepare myself > now. > On Jul 26, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> > wrote: > >> hmm not bad is how I'd describe that… :-) >> On 26 Jul 2013, at 18:42, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Ah. Does it do headers, footers, end notes and foot notes accessibly? The >>> only time i use texshop is for lilypond. And for that i have to put a line >>> of code in my lily pond files for it to recognize it. >>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I loath pages with a passion that's almost holy in its intensity, so I use >>>> TeXShop all the time. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> D >>>> On 26 Jul 2013, at 18:33, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah they know me well and they are wonderful. Well good luck on the >>>>> crash issue. I will not be using teashop for a while but I still have it >>>>> on my system. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick >>>>> <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sarah, >>>>>> *smile* oh believe me the devs know me well. I've reported a few >>>>>> accessibility things to them and they've been ore than helpful. I just >>>>>> wanted to see was this widespread or just on my mac. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dónal >>>>>> On 26 Jul 2013, at 17:22, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Email the devs. I can't remember their email address at present but >>>>>>> they are known to fix bugs rather quickly. They did when I was having >>>>>>> issues with lily pond and texshop Lie the next minor update later about >>>>>>> a few days later. That was good as I was in the middle of coding huge >>>>>>> class project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care and be blessed. >>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 9:19 AM, JAMES AUSTIN <james.aus...@mac-access.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Dónal >>>>>>>> On 26 Jul 2013, at 15:30, Dónal Fitzpatrick >>>>>>>> <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how many people on list use TeXShop, but I'm just >>>>>>>>> wondering if any of you have noticed that it is crashing a lot >>>>>>>>> lately? This is particularly evident when I use either cmd-t to >>>>>>>>> typeset a document, or cmd-w to close the PDF output from LaTeX. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This seems to be an on-going bug. I'm not sure who to report it to, >>>>>>>> though hopefully the 2013 version might address it? I think it is >>>>>>>> coming out in September. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As a workaround, and I'm sure you've thought of this, you could run >>>>>>>> pdflatex on the command line and send the output to a file on the >>>>>>>> Desktop to review any possible errors. I know it's not very efficient, >>>>>>>> but it should stop TeXShop crashing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps there are other TeX editors, but I've not found any that are >>>>>>>> accessible. 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