Believe me I felt that way myself when I first got my computer, MacBook Pro mid 2012. And no they're not stupid at all.
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Andy Collins <a...@recreation.plus.com> wrote: > Henry - Only just read your below message, and am glad to see from the thread > that you have now been given the help you needed. These are not stupid > questions you ask, or if they are, then I too am stupid, as I had to ask a > lot on this list too, and with help on here, and doing my own research for > podcasts etc, I feel I have made great strides forward in using this Mac. I > certainly wouldn't go back to Windows now. There is a lot to learn, and > because at times things can be inconsistent with Voice Over, it can seem like > you are doing something wrong, that use to work,and this can feel very > frustrating, so keep in mind that at times, when things do not work, it isn't > always user error. Good luck, and keep asking for help, once you get use to > doing things, just from repetition, it'll all feel much easier - > > Andy > On 9 Sep 2013, at 11:11, "Henry Miller" <he...@henryandangela.co.uk> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi Andy >> >> Many thanks for your suggestions. We have learnt how to navigate around the >> screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc. Our problem is opening an item >> to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple "getting started tutorial" >> Chapter 2, under the heading of "Hear when modifier keys are pressed" the >> instructions are: >> >> 1. When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8. >> 2. Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements. >> (this is where we are stuck) >> 3. Select the "Announce when a modifier key is pressed" checkbox. >> >> We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how >> to reach "announcements" from this point-despite trying numerous VO >> commands. >> This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we assume to >> "click" an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in >> this case for us. >> >> We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are >> both total and rely completely on what we hear, and do not have any sighted >> assistance to help. >> >> Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated. >> >> best wishes >> >> Henry and Angela >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins >> Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23 >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question? >> >> Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another >> place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in >> an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice, >> pitch, speed etc, on the fly - >> >> Andy >> On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller <he...@henryandangela.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Hi Sarah >>> >>> Many thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I am not understanding your >>> instructions. How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options? >>> Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> Henry >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami >>> Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19 >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question? >>> >>> vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then check additional >> speech >>> verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your >>> settings there. >>> >>> Tc. >>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller <he...@henryandangela.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way >>>> through the "getting started guide". 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