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Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben J Bloomgren" <bbloomg...@icloud.com> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:48 AM Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? I don't see that problem in iMessage. Maybe it's only a sporadic problem. Ben J. Bloomgren Manager CLG Productions Http://www.clgproductions.com 704-256-0067 Hours: Nonday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Eastern accept holidays. > On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:46, meadowlark77 <meadowlar...@cox.net> wrote: > > I have trouble when sending an iMessage because the edit field doesn't > seem > to be just right there, like it was in IOS6. The keyboard seems to be > extra > sensitive now. > > Take care, > > Brenda > > mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7? > > > Edit fields in IOS7 are flakey though. In the IOS6 (and before) days, > touching an edit field, whilst editing was ongoing, would only read it not > set the focus to wherever in the field one happened to touch. > > Dónal >> On 3 Oct 2013, at 16:30, Zachary Kline <zkl...@speedpost.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Jane, >> This is weird. Dictation can be started by a two-finger double-tap, which >> is in fact one of my favorite new little features. I’ve never ad problems >> with a one-finger double tap. >> Best, >> Zack. >>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Jane <juanitatig...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi. Yes it is very accessible from a totally blind person's perspective. >>> There is one conflict you need to be aware of. At least, I find it to be >>> a problem. It's hard to double-tap on a field and type in text. Now, the >>> microphone seems to think I want to ictate text. This an make searching >>> for books and putting them into the right colection tricky. >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Zachary Kline <zkl...@speedpost.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I’ve been using iOS 7 for a while now, and must say that the issues are >>>> very minor. Over all the experience is positive, for me as a totally >>>> blind person. >>>> Best, >>>> Zack. >>>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Josh Gregory <joshkar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I will agree… Of particular annoyance to me is the losing focus issue >>>>> of voice over on iPhone 4s. Maybe this doesn't happen on other >>>>> devices, >>>>> but it is particularly noticeable here. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick >>>>>> <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>>> >>>>>> Right here’s a departure from the fanboy culture for you. IOS7 is a >>>>>> mediocre release. There are various issues but of particular note is >>>>>> the way they have broken interaction with Siri. Lots of fairly >>>>>> clued-in people have commented on this on twitter but for me they >>>>>> need >>>>>> to really solve this one. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bluntly, the big game-changers in IOS7 aren’t in the realm of >>>>>> accessibility for blind people; rather they are in the inclusion of >>>>>> switch-based access. I’m not a user of these devices but word has it >>>>>> that they’ve done this fairly well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dónal >>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2013, at 14:54, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I love ios7 and all its glory. It's accessible with some quirks and >>>>>>> some pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> for access issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just >>>>>>> need to practice some of the jesters until you can do them in your >>>>>>> sleep. Where did you hear the 64 gig model was *not* going to be >>>>>>> around anymore? I did not hear such a thing even in the key note in >>>>>>> june. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tc. >>>>>>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie >>>>>>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Lynn, >>>>>>>> Personally, I like IOS 7. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still >>>>>>>> struggle >>>>>>>> with a few of them, but that's me and not the OS! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model. >>>>>>>> IOS 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play >>>>>>>> around a lot with the older phones, either. I am also running the >>>>>>>> new OS on my i pad 2 and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make >>>>>>>> it unusable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Caitlyn >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" >>>>>>>>> <ly...@mac-access.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello everybody >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Firstly, let me just say that I’m not interested in what the “fat >>>>>>>>> cats” and the professional analysts say; I’m looking for genuine >>>>>>>>> user opinion here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 >>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>> that it is public, in terms of accessibility primarily, and >>>>>>>>> functionality as a secondary topic. Speaking as somebody with >>>>>>>>> vision, on the outside looking in as you might say, it seems to me >>>>>>>>> that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment as far as >>>>>>>>> iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven’t gave much >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual >>>>>>>>> perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications >>>>>>>>> can now interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have >>>>>>>>> been improved upon. Of course, Apple’s errors which only came to >>>>>>>>> light when iOS7 hit the streets were a little embarrassing for >>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>> I would think. But in fairness, they did move swiftly to address >>>>>>>>> them and now, we would seem to have as secure a mobiles operating >>>>>>>>> system as we can reasonably expect. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release >>>>>>>>> notes >>>>>>>>> that there are a small number of functions which only apply to the >>>>>>>>> iPhone5, iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded >>>>>>>>> since the release of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from >>>>>>>>> an earlier model and has noticed a significant increase in >>>>>>>>> functionality? If so, what were the significant differences that >>>>>>>>> you noticed? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the >>>>>>>>> 5S. But I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model >>>>>>>>> available. Our iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They >>>>>>>>> work fine, and if I’m going to upgrade there’s have to be >>>>>>>>> significant reasons. 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