Hi Travis and list, I do use Xcode with VO for iOS development every day and really like it. 95% or something like that can be done without sighted assistence. The remaining 5% have do do with the very correct arrangement of images on the screen.
Although Interface Builder is quite accessible, I do not use it a lot, since I am faster with the programmatic approach. There might be other issues in Mac development that I am not aware of, but I cannot imagine them. I really do encourage all people to use Xcode. It is quite hard work at the beginning, since it is a complex tool. However, once you got used to it, it is really fun. Greetings Jan --- MouseKick - The mice are coming! Download on the App Store: http://AppStore.com/MouseKick --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Germany phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907 mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242 e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps tax number: DE281706766 Am 09.10.2013 um 14:58 schrieb Travis Siegel <tsie...@softcon.com>: > You've stumbled into the main concern for vo developers. XCode has gotten > better with each successive release, but it still has a way to go (last I > checked) Honestly, you've managed to do more with it than I ever did, but > then again, I gave up trying after snowleopard was released. All I can tell > you is that there are alternatives to XCode, but they come with their own set > of issues. If you do manage to get XCode to behave properly, I'd be > interested in hearing how it was done. I pretty much gave up developing for > osx entirely other than a few terminal apps here and there precisely because > of the horrible vo support in XCode and the shear amount of work required by > other methods. Honestly, the only way to develop for osx (imo) is via java, > since it happily takes care of the whole gui environment for you. However, > since apple's support for java keeps fluctuating, and sun and apple seem to > be at odds over who/how java should be handled on osx, I'm not sure java will > remain a viable option much longer either. > <sigh> > Lately, I've gone back to linux for about half of my computing usage. I > switch between osx and linux depending on what I'm doing at any given moment. > I honestly thought osx would be my 100 percent os there for a while, but the > lack of support for vi programmers has really put a crimp in that for me, so > I'm a dual osx/linux user again, and I'm happy with that. So, if you do > manage to get osx to allow you to build a program from start to finish, and > you can do so without sighted assistance, and you can make it look the way > you want, by all means, let me know, at that point, it may be worth it for me > to take another look at osx for development, but until then, I'm staying with > my linux/osx combo. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access@mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> > > As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that > the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security > strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something > unpredictable happen. > > Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by > visiting the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>