Hi I should make the point that although the operating system is now public, what went on in the test phase is very much still non-public.
Kind regards <--- Gordon Smith ---> Information Technology Accessibility Consultant <gor...@mac-access.net> Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 Or: +44 1642 941776 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess> Skype: <skype:mac-access-dot-net?call> ------------------------------ On 23 Oct 2013, at 01:19, Christopher-Mark Gilland <ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote: > I guess now that we're no longer on NDA, I will say I agree with Zack. I > too, found that the testing cycle was not exactly the smoothest. As I > recall, there was even one seed, I wanna say #3 if I remember correctly, > that was so broken, it didn't even boot. > > Anyway... yeah. > > Chris. > > > Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded. > > http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland > > For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me > on Twitter. > > http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Kline" <zkl...@speedpost.net> > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:41 PM > Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit > > >> Hi, >> Yes, I am, And have been for several months. The testing process has not >> been as smooth as in past releases, but I trust that things will eventually >> settle down. I just thought I should get the note out there, before some >> people upgraded and started panicking when iBooks didn't work as well as it >> could. :-) >> All the best, >> Zack. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> thanks zack, >>> are you using the new update? >>>> On 23/10/2013, at 7:25 AM, Zachary Kline <zkl...@speedpost.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> A few, but nothing huge. I’m more curious to see what happens with the new >>>> iWork apps, in which I suspect many of our accessibility issues have been >>>> addressed. >>>> Best, >>>> Zack. >>>>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Are there any new voiceover features? >>>>> Original message: >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>>> Now that OS X 10.9, AKA Mavericks, has finally entered public release, >>>>>> it is acceptable to mention it on this list without violating the NDA. >>>>>> :) That being said, I want to gently suggest that VoiceOver users wait >>>>>> to upgrade for a little while, as there are still some issues unresolved >>>>>> from the accessibility testing process. >>>>>> While I personally do not consider any of these game breaking, per se, >>>>>> they are significant enough to cause some confusion and annoyance. I >>>>>> suggest just waiting until at least the first general update to the >>>>>> system before committing yourself. 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