David just to say you can in fact re-download all your purchased music. In iTunes you can find them in the music library so long as you have iTunes in the cloud, free, enabled. You can also re-download music onto the phone simply by going into the music app. If nothing is showing go to settings iTunes and App Stores and turn on music next to the show all heading. So it can be done for sure.

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On 28/10/2013 22:28, David Griffith wrote:
That is correct.
Generally though I still avoid using iTunes whenever possible. The only real
use I have for iTunes is that I use  it to rip non Amazon CDs and that means
they automatically make their way onto my phone.
I also use it to buy apps for the phone.

Apart from that I am increasingly using Amazon Cloud Player to organise and
play music on my iPhone. With the Amazon autorip feature all the past and
present CDs I have ever bought from Amazon are instantly available for
playing on my iPhone without synching. Any Mp3 music I purchase from Amazon
is also immediately available for download on the iPhone with again none of
the synching nonsense itunes insists on. I can also download the music I
purchase onto my Mac and any authorised PC I am using. Again in marked
contrast to iTunes and the restricted Apple way of doing things.  I
purchased music from iTunes and downloaded it onto a laptop that has since
died, yet I can find no way of re-downloading it as iTunes simply reports I
have downloaded it already. Presumably Apple are trying to make me fork out
for iTunes Match.

The Amazon Cloud Player can also play all of the iTunes transferred Music
on your phone. All this means that I rarely use iTunes for getting or
playing music and instead use Amazon as it is so much simpler.
The main downside is that you cannot access music using Siri on the Amazon
Cloud Player.

I know I should, according to my friends,  be boycotting Amazon for Tax
avoidance in the UK but that is a matter for discussion elsewhere.
Impractical terms blind users often do not have the  same luxury of choice
as sighted consumers and certainly I am not aware of any accessible service
which offer the options and ease of use that Amazon now does.

So my advice is avoid iTunes. Use VLC for playing Music and Amazon Cloud
Player for getting music on your phone and computers.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 28 October 2013 19:57
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Arrowing through the artists table in iTunes issue

David - This is just a player then, right? It won't help with getting music
from the Mac to the iPhone, correct? -

Andy
On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:37, "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

I have never used VLC on iOS but yest VLC for the Mac is free and
intuitive
to use.
I have associated audio files with VLC so most often you can simply just
play files from Finder.
As a one off if you load a folder  of music within VLC you can save this
as
a Playlist file.  I normally save this  m3u playlist file within the same
folder that the music is in.
After that you simply have to open the m3u  file within Finder and VLC
will
play all the music in that folder.
It is just all a lot more straightforward than iTunes.
There is inbuilt support for audio formats including wma, it plays radio
streams fine and is a good video and DVD player with normal intuitive
commands that you would expect to work.

David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eileens Misrahi
Sent: 28 October 2013 18:26
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Arrowing through the artists table in iTunes issue

hello All,

I downloaded VLC for my phone, but I have never used it because of not
really knowing how to optimize it  for its  full benefit. Is this the same
app on your Mac that I have on my phone? If so, can you swap between the 2
platforms without syncing? I am just curious. Is the VLC app for the Mac
free or is there a cost?

Thanks in advance to responding to my questions.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Andy Collins <a...@recreation.plus.com>
wrote:

What is vlc? I don't actually use my Mac for the playing of music, but do
use iTuens for syncing with my phone -

Andy
On 28 Oct 2013, at 17:44, "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

I Don't know if it can be corrected but I have had the exact same issue
and
for this,  amongst other numerous clunky obstacles to ease of use, I
have
never used iTunes to play my music. I use VLC for both music playing and
playlist creation on my iMac.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 28 October 2013 17:29
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Arrowing through the artists table in iTunes issue

Hi all -

When arrowing down through the list of artists in my iTunes library, VO
stops announcing the artist name, and just says row 10 one item, row 11
one
item and so on. The only way to correct this seems to be to arrow back
up
to
the above row, and then VO speaks the artists name, but as soon as I
arrow
down again, it only says the row number and one item. Is this a list
view
issue? Can it be corrected? -

Andy
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