Oh yes, I think I remember that one now. Okay, that makes more sense then. 
Thanks

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> On Nov 14, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Esther <mori...@mac-access.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim, Josh, Dane, and Others,
> 
> I'm pretty sure that you can make these key reassignments with 
> KeyRemap4MacBook.  Josh, Apple used to make full-size Bluetooth keyboards, 
> but that was quite a while ago.  I imagine that if Jim is asking about a 
> Desktop Extended USB keyboard that might be connected to an iMac, for 
> instance, that the assignment of function keys F13 through F19 could just be 
> done under Keyboard Shortcuts under your System preferences for the Keyboard. 
>  
> 
> I don't remember whether Dane was reading the lists late last year in August 
> and September, but there were discussions about using KeyRemap4MacBook.  In 
> default installed mode, this gives you access to a numerical keypad where the 
> embedded numerical keypads used to appear for Mac laptops (and also PC laptop 
> keyboards) using the right hand side of the keyboard, when these keys were 
> pressed in combination with the FN key.  What was more interesting is that 
> the full set of NumPad Commander custom VoiceOver definitions can be then be 
> used on a laptop keyboard, or with an Apple Wireless keyboard -- including 
> with all modifier key prefixes.
> 
> KeyRemap4MacBook can also remap third party keyboards, and be configured so 
> that the custom key remappings only apply to the native keyboard, to 
> keyboards used under VMWare Fusion, to Bluetooth keyboards, and to specific 
> third party keyboards, or any combination of the above.  And despite the 
> name, this software application can be used for any Mac keyboard -- not just 
> laptops.  Eric Caron went on to post an AppleVis podcast and set of 
> directions on how to remap the VoiceOver key combination (Control + Option) 
> to the Caps Lock key, and to use the Caps Lock key under VMWare Fusion as the 
> Insert key using KeyRemap4MacBook.
> 
> There are also some keyboard manufacturers, such as the Canadian manufacturer 
> Matias, that make third party keyboards for the Mac in both the extended and 
> laptop varieties.  Matias is probably better known for its support of the 
> ALPS type keyboards favored by some older PC users over the flatter, chiclet 
> type keyboards currently used on Mac laptops and on the Apple Wireless 
> keyboard.  They also have a Bluetooth laptop keyboard which has the ALPS type 
> key action (clicky feel and larger travel when keys are pressed), but with 
> basically the laptop layout (and a few extra dedicated keys for Page Up, Page 
> Down, and forward delete), and with the F-keys separated both from the other 
> key rows, and grouped in sets of four.  These are, however, more expensive 
> keyboards, and the cheapest price I've seen quoted for the Matias Laptop Pro 
> for Mac keyboard is $147.95 (with free shipping) for this Bluetooth keyboard. 
>  (It lists for $169.95).
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> 
>> I've seen keyboards that do, but these are desktop keyboards, I think my 
>> mom's current computer keyboard has them, but that's  windows. So Bluetooth 
>> keyboards that can work with a Mac have these?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> 
>>> Glad you asked that question and may I follow it with another question.  If 
>>> you're using an Apple Bluetooth keyboard without the number pad and the 
>>> extra keys then how in the world would you use function keys 13 to 19? I 
>>> suppose a lot of this would have to do with using the FN key.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Nov 2013, at 3:38 am, Josh Gregory wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wait, I didn't think a mac had function keys 13 to 19, so… It does? How is 
>>>> that possible? Not asking to be rude or anything, but just curious as I 
>>>> didn't think the standard keyboard had these keys.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Folks:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apart from using a program such as Quicksilver, is there a way to assign 
>>>>> function keys 13-19 as shortcut keys?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks all over the place.
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