Hi Esther,

yes messing with those option key commands can be lots of fun :-)  I didn’t 
know the 8 key did that.

Cheers,

Dónal
On 14 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Esther <mori...@mac-access.net> wrote:

> Hi Dónal,
> 
> On an Irish input language keyboard you'll need to use the "8" key on the 
> number row instead of the "u" key to type an umlaut.  So you would press 
> Option-key+8 and then press the key for the letter you want accented (e.g., a 
> "u" if you want to type a "u" with an umlaut over it as in "ü" -- or a 
> diaeresis, which my spell checker wants to correct to a U.S. English spelling 
> with an "e" instead of "ae" letter combination before the "r" -- a more 
> general term for this accent with two dots when it appears over letters other 
> than "u").
> 
> I use the Option-key+8 shortcut quite frequently to type bullets for lists.  
> You would have to add a press of the Shift key to type bullets 
> (Option-key+Shift+8) instead of the umlaut accent character.  Another fun 
> symbol to type is the Apple logo character, which is Option-key+Shift+k on an 
> English (or Irish) language input keyboard.  
> 
> I did find a few other differences with how accents are typed on an Irish 
> input keyboard.  Typing an acute accent on an English input keyboard requires 
> pressing Option-key+e and then pressing the letter to be accented. On the 
> Irish input keyboard the Option-key+e shortcut combination is bound to an "e" 
> with an acute accent or "é". I have to press "Option-key+e" to generate the 
> acute accent, and then press "e" again as the letter I want to be accented.  
> To type The "o" in your name without a shortcut for your name, I press 
> "Option-key+e" followed by a press of the "o" key.  On the Irish keyboard, 
> you press Option-key+o.  On an English input keyboard pressing Option-key+o 
> produces an "o" with a slash -- which I might use in typing Danish or 
> Scandinavian names.
> 
> For anyone who wants to try figuring out Option key combinations, bring up a 
> TextEdit window, hold down the Option key, and start typing key combinations. 
> Then try using Option-key+Shift combinations, or even Option-key+Command-key 
> combinations.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Dec 14, 2013, at 2:39 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
>> Hi Esther,
>> 
>> I just checked and the locale was in fact set to Irish where option-u 
>> presents the ú character.  Switching to British did indeed produce the 
>> character as your archived post suggested.  It’s interesting as this is one 
>> of the first differences between the two keyboards that I’ve found. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Dónal
>> I have the locale set to Ireland which might be making a difference.  On 14 
>> Dec 2013, at 12:04, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Dónal,
>>> 
>>> Roger is correct, for an English language input keyboard you should be able 
>>> to type Option-key u, followed by the letter you want to be accented (e.g., 
>>> a "u" if you want to type a "u" with an umlaut, or "ü"). Has this changed 
>>> under Mavericks?  Or might you have a different input language keyboard 
>>> selected?
>>> 
>>> See, for example, on of my archived posts on typing accented characters 
>>> with the Option key:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg03788.html
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:49 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Roger,
>>>> 
>>>> That’s exactly what I thought, and thanks for confirming. However when I 
>>>> do option-u, I get the ú character.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Dónal
>>>> On 14 Dec 2013, at 11:45, Roger Firman  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dónal,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it is something like:
>>>>> Option-key u, followed by the vowel you require.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger.
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