Right, but I'm not 100% sure that will work if you remap it to ctrl+option,
as theoretically, if you did, you'd basically be double pressing those keys
instead of double pressing the caps lock. does that kind a make sense?
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn" <glenner...@cableone.net>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Caps Lock Key As A VoiceOver Key; What's The Advantage?
Christopher,
If it is like in windows and Linux, you double-tap the caps lock key
quickly, and it will toggle between locked and unlocked.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <cgwaxhawlo...@clgproductions.com>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: Caps Lock Key As A VoiceOver Key; What's The Advantage?
So, I have two questions.
Firstly, how does one remap the vo keys to the caps lock in the first place?
Secondly, what do you then do if down the road you do! need to use the caps
lock for its normal function?
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Caron" <eric_ca...@mac-access.net>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Caps Lock Key As A VoiceOver Key; What's The Advantage?
Hi gordon and others,
Here are some of the reasons I find having the caps lock key act as the VO
keys a advantage.
I'm a touch typist using the Home row of keys. The caps lock key location
lets me use VO and often keep my fingers ready to go on the Home row. Much
faster work flow for me.
Many commands using VO and letters on the left side of the key board are
especially easy to use with the caps lock as VO. example VO A, reading the
contents of the voice over curser.
I use two fingers on my left hand without leaving the home row. The small
finger on caps lock and the ring finger to tap the A key. Without caps lock
I must drop my left hand to the VO keys then cross my right hand over to
find the A key. Or, I can cross my right hand down and under my left.
There is just no easy way to keep typing and press VO A, or VO S, or VO D
for that matter.
The caps lock key as VO is also a big help to me when I need to do command
that has multiple keys. for example VO shift home. with the caps lock as
vo I can still essentially keep my left hand on the home row. and pressing
caps lock key is easy. pressing VO shift means my left hand is off the Home
row and busy using three fingers to hold down the keys.
I can give many more examples. One more good one is using the command VO W.
this is a very handy command to hear the word you are on, Press it a second
time for the spelling, and the third time for the phonetic spelling.
With VO as caps lock I hold down the caps lock key with my small finger on
my left hand and use my left hand ring finger two then press the W as many
times as I need. both hands remain on the home row.
Now go ahead and try this with the usual VO keys on the left of the space
bar. that simple command VO W is a hand twister for me and a slow down in
my work flow.
Before using the caps lock as a VO key I modified my laptop keyboard to have
a set of VO keys on the right. Now that I have the caps lock key working as
VO I returned my other keys back to the default. I don't need the VO keys on
the right to work quickly.
This modification has nothing to do with my past and current work on the
windows side of the world. It is just a much more efficient way of
navigating the keyboard on the Mac.
I continue to be grateful it is a option thanks to keyremap4macbook.
Best.
Eric Caron
On May 25, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
Hello
Regarding your first point, I too came to the Mac after a very long time
using Windows. Now, however, I need to use both and, moreover, on the same
machine preferably at the same time.
I believe that I was the first in the visually impaired community to
introduce the concept of VMWAre Fusion, way back in April 2007 whilst beta
testing for VMWAre with Fusion 1.0. I produced a demo for ACB Radio main
stream, which was well received in many quarters, I’m flattered to say.
I worked closely in those days with the VMWAre engineering staff to ensure
accessibility. This was because at that time the only other solution was
Parallels Desktop 1.0 which was, and remains to this day, totally
inaccessible. When I contacted VMWAre in the very early part of 2007,
they were extremely receptive to my comment and, as I said, invited me to
participate in what was then private beta testing. It went public not too
long after my original demo which was compiled with their knowledge and
permission.
In recent times, however, I haven’t really given much thought to using it
since about Fusion 4, which was very different. I find that the host
system keeps grabbing control of the keyboard when, for instance, I hit
Command+M which should produce the equivalent to Windows+M in the guest.
I don’t want to go down the road of configuration of the guest on this
forum because it would put me off topic, and my fellow moderator would
probably banish me from the list, despite the fact that I own it! ;-)
Seriously, however, if there is anybody who wants to take up this
discussion and if they are a member of either Techno-Chat, or our sister
group, Windows-Access, I’d love to hear from you as to how you avoid the
conflicts to which I seem to be prone.
For reference once again, I shall post here the links that people may use
to join these groups if they wish:
Techno-Chat, <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat/>
Windows-Accesss,
<http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/windows-access/>
Back to the original topic, what I was going to say was that I believe
that it is essential if you want to cut the learning curve down a bit, to
throw away what seems sensible on Windows or other platforms, and take
VoiceOver for the beast that it is. Learning native functionality before
venturing out to changing things seems, to me at least, to be a more
preferable way to work. I’ve found when coaching new users that, if I can
get the user to totally forget about Jaws, NVDA, Window-Eyes, Access2Go,
Window-Bridge or any other such solution, the user seems to learn more
quickly. VoiceOver is, as most would agree, a very different concept to
the majority or maybe even all of those screen-readers with the possible
exception of NVDA whose basic principles are the same.
Anyway, I’ll end with another question. If you make this change, and the
caps lock key is used as a VoiceOver key, what happens with your other
solutions which also require the caps lock key? I too am using a MacBook,
a 2012 MacBook Air in my case. OK, so that I can comment from the
perspective of one who has at least tried the change, I shall go and make
a total system backup, and then I shall make the change; see if I prefer
it. If so, I shall then bow to the inevitable.
Finally, to be very clear, I don’t want you to think I’m in any way
ridiculing, patronising, disputing or in any way trying to be obnoxious.
I’m just interested in the concept of why people find these changes
advantageous. Perhaps, after trying it, I may come out on totally the
other side of the fence. But I shall, rest assured, try it. I wouldn’t
like to in any way be presumptuous.
Kindest regards
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On 25 May 2014, at 18:50, Geoff Stephens <geoffsli...@gmail.com> wrote:
For me at least, recently coming to the Mac after many years of Windows
use, the idea that two keys are necessary to control VO seems nonsensical.
Therefore, I immediately made the change. It also seems rather intuitive
that the caps lock key would be the most logical choice since it allows
one to leave the left hand on the home row. I do not have any problem
with dexterity. More than a few of the keystrokes required to use VO if
one leaves it at the default Control Option setting are needlessly
difficult to accomplish. I only use VO on a laptop keyboard. Another
reason the Caps Lock key is such a logical choice is that it is commonly
used in Windows screen readers as the dedicated key for issuing screen
reader commands in a laptop layout.
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