Hi sarah, David, and others,

        I checked activities and turns out I had them all turned off.  so that 
was not the Safari Item chooser problem.

I remember once there was a way to reset Safari, can someone remind me where to 
find that option?  I looked and could not find it.

Eric Caron 




> On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:54 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Actually that might be the problem. I noticed that activities are often slow 
> hence why I don't use them. You can how ever switch to them with I think vo X 
> on the fly.
> 
> Blessings and happy Thursday
>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Eric Caron <eric_ca...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>>      Thanks for your continued input on my slow item chooser problem.  I’d 
>> love to have mine working like yours.  I get busy busy in safari even with 
>> the site is small with fewer items.  If I wait a very long time the item 
>> chooser will finally say it is loading items.  So I don’t think it matters 
>> what site we compare.  
>> 
>>      I am using the Alex voice and I’m pretty sure I am using a activity 
>> that turns on quick nav when i start safari.
>> 
>> I’m using a 2012 Retina 15 inch I7 with 16 gigs of ram and a  SSD  .  this 
>> should give me speed and that is why I set it up that way.  
>> 
>>      i miss the item chooser as it was a quick way to find things.
>> 
>> This happens even with only mail or even nothing else open on my Mac.
>> 
>> Thanks for any tips for what I might try.  
>> 
>> At least I know others are not having this problem so eventually I should 
>> get the useful Item chooser behavior back.
>> 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 6:02 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think we need to compare websites  as I am not getting this at all.
>>> In fact the feature of item chooser is that I no longer get the busy 
>>> message, because of the new system. I certainly did under Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> The previous website I tried was www.bbc.co.uk/news and the symptoms you 
>>> describe did not occur.
>>> 
>>> I just went to one of the biggest and most complicated pages I know 
>>> http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/West+Ham+United 
>>> <http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/West+Ham+United>
>>> 
>>> I again hit item   chooser but did not get a busy message. Pressing end on 
>>> my keyboard did jump  me down to a loading more messages announcement  at 
>>> the end of the chooser list.
>>> 
>>> If you are getting busy messages on these pages then your Mac is not 
>>> behaving as mine and possibly something else  is up..
>>> 
>>> Just to check that you are using the Alex voice? If I use Scansoft voices 
>>> Safari starts to glue up something terrible which may account for it.
>>> Using Activities and Scansoft Voices makes a very poor experience in Safari 
>>> I find.
>>> I am using a 2011 iMac  with 16 GB of ram. I aisles use a SSD primary drive.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Jan 2015, at 06:24, Eric Caron <eric_ca...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>>    Can you describe what you do to get access so quickly?  In my case i 
>>>> start item chooser and Safari says busy until I give up and press escape.  
>>>> It then says something like 19 items loaded canceling item chooser. if I 
>>>> don’t hit escape it just keeps saying busy.
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Caron  
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:34 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would not say it has broken but it has definitely changed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What appears to happen now is that it is  available almost immediately 
>>>>> but continues to increase in length of the chooser as you wait. . What 
>>>>> used to happen is that on big web pages it would take a time for the item 
>>>>> chooser to come up but then it would all be there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now  it comes up with the first 22 elements  almost immediately and 
>>>>> continues  to grow. I think this is what is happening but have no sighted 
>>>>> help to confirm this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I went to www.bbc.co.uk/news and hit item chooser. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Thirst items on the chooser  were all items in the tool bar as 
>>>>> expected but if I continually hit the end key on my keyboard the last 
>>>>> item available on the item chooser was changing as further elements from 
>>>>> the page was read into the list.
>>>>> So if I am trying to find an element on the page and the list has not yet 
>>>>> expanded to include all the elements of the page it is very possible that 
>>>>> it would  not have got around to reading  the necessary element into the 
>>>>> list and will not work. .
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess this takes a bit of getting used to. The upside is that if you 
>>>>> want to identify something at the top  of the page, especially in the 
>>>>> Safari toolbar it is quicker than the old system, the downside is that 
>>>>> there is no real way of telling when the list is fully populated apart 
>>>>> from hitting the end key to jump to the bottom of the list and seeing 
>>>>> where it has got up to on the page. It may also be slower at accessing 
>>>>> elements at the end of pages than the old system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think this is what is happening.
>>>>> David Griffith  
>>>>>> On 29 Dec 2014, at 14:18, Eric Caron <eric_ca...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi listers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Ever since I updated to Yosemite, I've noticed I can't use item chooser 
>>>>>> in most situations. Especially in safari it just hangs up and when I hit 
>>>>>> the escape key it cancels. It never actually finishes loading in the 
>>>>>> items. Are other people having this problem? Is there a fix? Thanks. It 
>>>>>> would be nice to know if I'm not alone.
>>>>>> 
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