Sorry, with the dramatic events of yesterday I didn't have a chance to
fully read your eMail, I'll take another look later on this morning.
On 9/03/2015 1:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK, and were you able to find any of the stations that I mentioned?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that
SnowflakeforMacisworthwhile.
The Genres view I was in and that’s the default view when the App
starts for the first time, command with a number from 1 to for takes
you to a different view though this might not be available in the
Free version, I must keep reminding myself that I bought the Pro and
you have the Free and their might be considerable differences between
both perhaps?
On 8 Mar 2015, at 5:32 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
I didn't really make mention of any specific view though, this is
just the screen that comes up by default. Are there any other views
that you can change to that I might not be aware of?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that Snowflake
forMacisworthwhile.
You told us!
On 8 Mar 2015, at 4:38 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
When you say the view I mention, how do you know which view I was
in? Can you see if any of those stations I mentioned in my first
post come up for you?
If you can get them, then please outline step by step how to make
sure I'm on the same view that you are looking at, and then how to
find the station specifically.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that Snowflake
for Macisworthwhile.
I won’t be able to do any demonstrations for a little while, had
a major accident in my kitchen last night, knocked over a full
tin of coffee which burst open onto the floor and I’m having to
both supervise and put into practise the cleaning operation so
its back to the computer for short breaks only at the moment
until the cleaning job is completed but nevertheless I’ve just
had another quick play with Snowflake on my system.
In the view you mentioned, I found that Voiceover started saying
“Busy”, that in itself isn’t an uncommon thing to hear so I
focused to another application, turned Voiceover off, waited for
5 seconds and then reactivated it again.
I then went back into Snowflake and everything worked as it
should, was able to read the tables etc.
On 8 Mar 2015, at 4:18 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dane,
Would it be at all possible for you to make an audio demo of how
the app works for you? Perhaps this might clear up any
confusions myself or others are having about how to use it.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that
Snowflake for Mac isworthwhile.
Interesting, I’ve been using Snowflake for a few days now and I
don’t have the problems you’ve mentioned with Voiceover and I
certainly can bring up the list.
I’m not doubting you either because someone else brought up the
fact that they were also having issues so I’ve no idea what’s
going on.
For me? Well its been calm sailing I have to admit from the
moment I downloaded Snowflake onto the Mac up until now.
On 8 Mar 2015, at 12:46 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
I hate to be the breaker of bad news, but after trying
Snowflake for Mac which was mentioned about a week ago by Dane
here on list, I must say that thus far, I am definitely not at
all impressed. Please see my reasons below. If anyone would
like an audio demo of me illustrating these facts either 1 for
proof, or 2, just so you can hear it in action, just let me
know. I have no issue putting something together. I’ll be in
my studio all day, so it would be easy enough to do.
Anyway…
1. When I click the genres button with any of the known
methods: vo+space, vo+shift+space after rooting the mouse,
hitting return, hitting space bar, routing the mouse then
literally clicking the trackpad, etc, Voiceover goes
completely busy and no matter what the heck I do, it won’t
become ready again unless I restart Voiceover with command+F5
to turn it off, then again command+F5 to turn it back on. Even
command+tabbing to another application doesn’t work.
2. Finally when I *do!* manage to get Voiceover to start
cooperating, I notice that the search button, and the genre
button are both gone. Now, I have a button that says
alternative. As you may or may not have suspected, clicking
it with any of the above mentioned methods does literally
absolutely nothing at all.
3. After clicking the genre button, and unhanging Voiceover,
I find lots of stations in the table which are related to
alternative, but I see absolutely no way to change the genre,
say, from alternative to Christian, or country, or oldies, or
adult contemporary, etc.
4. When I search for a station by hitting the search button
if needed, then going to the edit box, typing my key word
search, then hitting return, nothing at all shows up in the
table. I’ve tried looking for wrcm 91.9 in Charlotte NC, I’ve
tried looking for WLYT 102.9 in Charlotte NC, WLNK 107.9 in
Charlotte NC, WSOC 103.7 in Charlotte NC, WKKT 96.9 the Kat in
Charlotte NC, WBT 1110 in Charlotte NC, KTAR in Phoenix AZ,
KOA 810 in Denver CO, WSM in Nashville TN, and have found none
of these, which I find incredibly surprising for an app which
apparently clames to have over twenty thousand stations in its
database. I’ll admit that I haven’t paid for the pro version,
which may wind up including more stations in its database
library, however I see no reference on their web site to this
one way or another. It looks like all I gain from the pro
version is the ability to output my audio to multiple sound
devices, and the ability to access the equalizer, which by the
way, I don’t know either way if that is accessible or not.
So yeah… it sounds to me like there are hardly any stations in
this app which I can find. Plus, I still don’t see a way to
browse by location.
I therefore am not at this time going to be purchasing a
license, that’s for sure.
Now, I am extremely! willing to stand corrected on any of my
notes above. If there is something maybe I’m missing, then by
all means! please please let me know. I’m not seeing
anything, but then again, I’m human. I’ve been known a time
or two to miss certain things, therefore I don’t clame to be
correct in everything. There is that slight chance I’m
missing something, though I’m sceptical of this possibility,
admittedly.
Before anyone asks, yes, I’m on the most up to date version,
and yes, I am indeed using Yosemite.
Chris.
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