Yeah, aside from Garageband, I really don't know of anything that is just
midi that could do only basic midi functions as what I use obviously, with
ProTools is a full fledged DAW. Plus, for what it sounds like you need, it
would not only ouch your wallet, but would be way! and I mean escrutiatingly
way! overkill!
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Yes, I just need to know of a program that is like Quick Windows Sequencer
for the mac, if you’re familiar with QWS.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for being so detailed. I just wanted to be sure that you
understood. You said you wanted to use the built in sounds. A lot of
people don't understand that midi in and of itself won't produce sounds
out the keyboard.
I have a real bad habbit of doing this and giving far more detail than
necessary, guilty as charged, but I would have hated for you to have
gotten an answer, then wonderred why just simply plugging a midi cable or
whatever in wasn't working.
Pardon the novel-writing. Did you get anything helpful though out of my
message? I hope so?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Well, goodness. I didn’t mean anything that detailed. I simply want a
program that uses pure midi, can export and import midi, and could
optionally save the midi as mp3. I’ve heard that GarageBand on OS X
10.10 is inaccessible in some ways, so I simply want a simple, easily
learned and accessible editor that’ll work with midi so that I can just
play using the keyboard. I have now, like in the last hour, gone through
the keyboard’s array of sounds and found them a little low quality, the
keyboard is an older model, so I may just play using the keyboard then
export to mp3 or something then all the tracks are good and all, so that’s
what I want to do.
On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
You're talking two totally different things here.
Let's get one thing totally straight. Midi isn't audio. All that midi
basically is are different numerical values for certain triggered
events, with 1's and 0's attached to it. Basically 0 means the event
is off, while 1 means it is on. Every single thing you do with the
keyboard is associated with a midi event, as they are called. I
understand this isn't what you're asking, but to answer your question,
I have to define this, so you'll understand in a second where I am
going with this. So what happens with midi is, these events are sent
to your midi hardware or software controller either on the input, or on
the output side. Trust me with this, I am an audio engineer, so I know
what I'm talking about, believe me. I've done this stuff for years.
Not saying I'm God, and know everything, cause I definitely don't, but
this much, I do! know.
OK, so with all of that said, let's address your question at hand...
The short answer is, Garageband will definitely do midi. If you don't
plan to record, but just want to play, then Audacity or even Main Stage
might be your best bet. The thing however is, just know that if you
want to get the sounds from your keyboard, it may take a little more
work. First of all, does your keyboard have built in speakers? If
not, you'll need to somehow get the keyboard going to a line source
like the line in of your mac, or to a mixer etc. I don't know your
setup, so it's kind of hard for me to really determine e everything
right up front without more info.
You're going to most likely need a midi to USB converter, because
obviously, the mac doesn't have built in round midi in and out and
through ports. There is a nice device called the midi Uno that would
work with this. Basically, it's a Y cable. One end has 3 of the male
round plugs. One for in, one for out, and one for through. So, you'd
connect that end to your keyboard, and leave the through cable dangling
if you don't have a through port on the keyboard... it won't hurt
anything. The other end is a standard USB plug. That would go into
the USB port on your mac. I think they're somewhere like around $50 or
so. Amazong should have them. I've had mine for about 5 years now, so
I can't tell ya if they still exist, but, I'd definitely look.
If your keyboard actually connects via USB, not the round midi plugs,
then just use a standard plug and play USB cable, and you'll be good to
go.
If you want to then play midi with the built in instruments, then
you'll open up your DAW, (Digital Audio workstation,) of choice, be it
Garageband, Audacity, whatever, and you'll want to set your midi output
to your keyboard midi controller. So, if you're using an Uno, or some
sort of midi to USB converter, it should, provided you have the drivers
properly installed, show up in your output list. You'd just pick it,
and boom, you're done. Now you'll play the midi file just like you
normally would and it then should come out your keyboard speakers, or
if no speakers, it'll get routed to your keyboard's line out/headphone
out which you then have fed back into a line in source of some type.
If you wanna record using the sounds in the keyboard, this gets a
little more complecated. Basically, keeping it general, and
elementary, you'd need, even if there are! built in speakers, to
connect a stereo patch cable to the line out, preferred, or if you
don't have one, the headphone jack of the keyboard, and the other end
into a channel on your interface/mixer, or if you don't have one, then
directly to your line in on the mac. Fire up your DAW of choice. Open
the midi file, or record it like normal, then in your project, create a
stereo audio track for your final master mix, arm it for recording if
needed, then making sure none of your midi tracks are armed, so you
don't accidentally record over them, hit record in the software of your
choice, and then basically allow the midi to play through your
keyboard, and get routed out the keyboard to the line in of your
mixer/interface/line in jack on the mac, therefore capturing that audio
and recording it to the stereo audio track you just created. Then,
once done, delete all the midi tracks from the project, leaving only
the one audio track, and then mix/bounce/render, however the DAW calls
it, it down to either a wave file, or an mp3. Preferably a wave file,
so that it won't be compressed or with any artifacts. You can later go
back and encode that wave to an mp3 file, if it be needed.
I do offer tech support on this type thing, so if you need help, give
me a call on Monday, and I can definitely help you with this. My rates
are $15 an hour, or $25 flat rate for unlimited tech support during
business hours for one whole month. I take PayPal, and I also can over
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people. Just know though, it is an option. PayPal Here is my
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If you want to do this and take advantage of my support options, my
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I hope that I've been of help.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 4:35 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: midi keyboard usage within the mac
Hi all. I mac a lovely midi keyboard… Well it will be when I find the
midi -to-usb cable… Its a Yamaha keyboard with its own built-in
instruments. I really would rather use its instruments instead of the
garageband ones, and would rather have a program that simply makes
midi files, like QWS on Windows. Are there any apps that can do that
for the Mac?
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