Hmm actually that is the key stroke for show top of bottom of the screen. I 
don't often use this method as that is not a true page up and page down 
command. Perhaps what you found was a bug that should be squashed.  the visible 
end is the screen and the end end is the window itself. Confused yet? Vo k will 
help you.
> On Apr 25, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Esther kinsman <ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have accidentally discovered that if you hold down the v o keys and hit the 
> up or down arrow then the end or home key the list of emails in the in box 
> will   move about a dozen lines.
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:48 AM, John Panarese <jpanar...@mac-access.net> wrote:
> 
>>  I'mnot sure what you are asking?  Do you mean while viewing the messages 
>> themselves? 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
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>>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Esther kinsman <ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey, it works!  Now what do I do when I am in a table - for example if I am 
>>> in the mail box how do I move up and down in multiple lines.
>>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:16 AM, John Panarese <jpanar...@mac-access.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It depends on what kind of list you are in.  Be sure you are interacting 
>>>> first and try option-up or option-down arrow.  Also, 
>>>> control-option-shift-home or end on a full sized keyboard.  On a laptop, 
>>>> shift-FN-control-option-left or right arrow.
>>>> 
>>>> In text, command-up and command-down arrow will take you to the top or 
>>>> bottom of the document.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Esther Kinsman 
>>>>> <ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This doesn't work for me!  Any other suggestions?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marri...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 4:39 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: moving to top or bottom of document
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Huh? option up and down arrow move me up to the top and bottom of a list 
>>>>>> all the time.  If that fails try cmd up and down arrow. Page down and 
>>>>>> and up don't and will nevr work, at least they have not for me in 5 
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Esther kinsman 
>>>>>>> <ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No this only moves the curser one line at a time - I was looking to 
>>>>>>> move page up or down or go to home or end of page or document.
>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello. Normally cmd up and down arrow will do this for you.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Esther Kinsman 
>>>>>>>>> <ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi:\
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Is there a quick way to move to the top or bottom of a document, list 
>>>>>>>>> of email messages, etc?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
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