Hi Jerry (and Andrew),

My observations are only from a hardware point of view and can only be 
accurately applied to the first generation Pioneer mechanism, the 
DVR-AO3 (or DVR-103), which is an internal ATA device.  The issue I 
debated before purchasing and installing the drive was whether Apple's 
superdrive had some firmware modifications which differentiated it from 
the stock Pioneer DVR-AO3.  Discovering that iDVD recognized the drive 
as a stock superdrive led me to conclude that the answer was "No".

However, this may not be true of the current superdrive which is 
Pioneer's third generation superdrive, the DVR-AO5 (or DVR-105).  For 
what it would cost for you to purchase the drive and install it, it may 
be worth a roll of the dice.  My assumption from past history is that 
Pioneer only makes one flavor of this drive period, not a second 
variation with proprietary Apple firmware onboard.  Therefore, iDVD 
will probably work.

Ward Oldham


On Saturday, December 21, 2002, at 09:33  PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> Not entirely true.
>
> Okay, here goes. iDVD is set to work with DVD burners that are on the 
> internal ATI bus. It won't run with burners hooked up to the Firewire 
> or USB bus.
>
> In many cases, it will not install off of the OS-X install cds because 
> of this. If you do as Ward suggest, then you should be able to use it 
> (though you may have to go back and install iDVD from one of the 
> packages then update it to be current. Don't forget to get the firmwre 
> updates that let you use the new 4x DVDs in the drive.
>
> So are you out of luck if you have to get an external drive? No. Toast 
> will burn the moves to DVD (once they are encoded in MPEG2 format). 
> Getting them onto DVD is not the problem, encoding them into MPEG2 
> format is. There are several ways to compress movies into MPEG2 
> (including using QuickTime).
>
> The advantage of iDVD is that it gives you everything in one place, 
> and it gives you the "front menu".
>
>                                       Jerry
>
> p.s I have heard there will soon be a retrofit kit for the TiBook so 
> that you can pop a DVD burner into it as well.
>
> On Saturday, December 21, 2002, at 08:52  PM, andrew arnold wrote:
>
>> Since we're on the subject... I am confused. I have a 450 G4 desktop 
>> and a
>> recent 800 TiBook. I would like to buy a new Pioneer DVD burner for 
>> the
>> desktop so that I can burn DVDs of iMovies... I have heard you need 
>> iDVD to
>> burn these and that software only comes with Macs that have the 
>> superdrive
>> pre-installed. Is this true? Am I unable to make my own DVDs without 
>> buying
>> a whole new system????
>>
>>
>>> iMovie should be able to handle it. Just keep in mind that each 
>>> minute
>>> of raw-uncompressed digital video (with audio) will take about 250 -
>>> 300 MB of hard drive space.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 10:53  PM, Lee Larson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Ann Richmond wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you do a whole 2 hour vhs tape this way? Or are you limited by 
>>>>> the
>>>>> camera's storage? Does the resolution capability of the camera
>>>>> determine
>>>>> the quality of the data going to iMovie/DVD? I really am a greenie 
>>>>> at
>>>>> this
>>>>> so any advice would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> I've never done a whole two-hour tape this way, but, if there's 
>>>> enough
>>>> disk space available, it could probably be done. (What's the limit 
>>>> on
>>>> iMovie input here? There's surely some HFS file size problem you'll
>>>> eventually hit. Jerry?)
>>>>
>>>> Nothing need ever be stored on the camera, so the storage of the
>>>> camera does not affect anything. You can store it on the camera, if
>>>> you want, and I often do it this way so I don't have to lug the VCR
>>>> down to the computer.
>>>>
>>>> The resolution seems to be as good as the VHS it started with.
>>>> Remember that VHS resolution is pretty bad compared to digital 
>>>> video,
>>>> so the results aren't nearly as good as the footage shot with the
>>>> digital camera. You don't really realize how bad VHS is until you
>>>> start editing it in a program like iMovie where you can mix real
>>>> digital stuff with the VHS stuff.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Lee Larson, Mathematics Department, University of Louisville
>>>> Phone: 502-852-6826 FAX: 502-852-7132
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 
>>>> 28
>>>> For more information, see <http://www.aye.net/~lcs>. A calendar of
>>>> activities is at <http://www.calsnet.net/macusers>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 
>>> 28
>>> For more information, see <http://www.aye.net/~lcs>. A calendar of
>>> activities is at <http://www.calsnet.net/macusers>.
>>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Andy
>> a0arno01 at athena.louisville.edu
>>
>> Remember the two most important things in life:
>>       1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
>>       2.
>>
>> The software box said, "Windows XP or better," so I bought a 
>> Macintosh.
>>
>> "Macintosh. We may not have done everything right, but at least we 
>> knew
>> the century was going to end."-Douglas Adams
>>
>>
>> The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 28
>> For more information, see <http://www.aye.net/~lcs>. A calendar of
>> activities is at <http://www.calsnet.net/macusers>.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be January 28
> For more information, see <http://www.aye.net/~lcs>. A calendar of
> activities is at <http://www.calsnet.net/macusers>.
>


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