Hi Dan,

Jerry nailed it and with that in mind, there's really no excuse not to 
immediately go out and buy a larger hard disk in light of how cheap 
they are.  You should be running with gigabytes free at all times.

Ward Oldham


On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 12:43  AM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> Yup, you found it. OS-X does use virtual memory via the hard drive.
> When you start up it looks at how much physical RAM you have, how much 
> free hard drive space you have available and then through some arcane 
> formula previously known only to alchemists decides on how much hard 
> drive to set aside as virtual memory.
>
> I know you hate the Terminal, but humor me this once... (smile)
> open Terminal and type the command:
>
> top
>
> then hit return
>
> toward the top of the page get back you might see something like:
>
> MemRegions: num = 3220, resident = 60.7M + 9.20M private, 76.5M shared
> PhysMem:  43.0M wired, 92.8M active,  177M inactive,  313M used,  303M 
> free
> VM: 2.61G + 63.9M   9907(0) pageins, 0(0) pageouts
>
> This is the virtual memory amount that has been set aside. if for some 
> reason, drive space is low, OS-X gets very cranky. (I guess the 
> alchemists didn't think about how cranky a machine can get, sicne this 
> was also the dawning of logical positivism).
>
> Side note: If you see the pageouts number getting big, that means your 
> system is, well, under stress as it is saving memory segments out to 
> the drive (another reason why you want to use the shutdown option 
> rather than turning the machine off !!)
>
>                                       Jerry
>
> On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 12:17  AM, Dan Crutcher wrote:
>
>> I'm still trying to figure out my recent problems with X (which were 
>> cured eventually by a reinstall) and I may have found a clue. I again 
>> experienced some of the same symptoms, though not nearly so bad this 
>> time. And it happened in a situation very similar to the one a few 
>> days ago.
>>
>> There are at least two factors that were the same on both occasions: 
>> I had booted into OS 9 and I had performed an operation that created 
>> large files that nearly filled up my hard drive. When I tried to boot 
>> back into X (this time 2.1.3), I found that my desktop was unstable. 
>> The icons and the date and time on the right side of the menu bar 
>> were flashing on and off; my desktop icons had resized themselves to 
>> the default size (I had set them at 32x32) and the dock had returned 
>> to its default size and it was no longer hidden.
>>
>> Before the operation that nearly filled up my hard drive 
>> (postscripting some Quark pages that had large graphic links), I had 
>> about 1.0 GB of free space (on an 18.6 GB drive). After creating the 
>> new files I had about 135 MB of space left. This was the case each 
>> time that I encountered the problem.
>>
>> This time my system seemed to work more or less normally with the 
>> exception of the weird desktop stuff mentioned above, so I 
>> immediately deleted about 500 MB worth of files -- and immediately 
>> after doing so, my date, time and menu bar icons reappeared and no 
>> longer flashed on and off. I reset my icons and dock to their 
>> previous settings and restarted, and everything seems to be working 
>> fine now.
>>
>> It appears that, on my system at least, OS X gets real cranky when I 
>> don't leave it plenty of hard drive space to play with. Any idea why 
>> that might be the case? X doesn't have a virtual memory setting like 
>> previous versions did, but I'm wondering if it doesn't reserve some 
>> hard drive space for use as virtual memory. I have 512 MB of RAM, if 
>> that makes any difference.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?
>>
>> Dan
>>
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