Jerry, you forever don't cease to amaze me. Due to your suggestions ( although i had no troubles at all ) I did peek into that black hole of terminal , also summoned those contents od the addressbook by clicking while holding the control key - well - a new Hades with scribbles of terminal charcters appeared from everywhere. Almost need magnifying glasses to read, although understanding is nil, ( couldn't they at least use a diffeent font system?) - but if you keep it up directing people into the underworld, it might just some day eliminate my fear of coming out of it again intact , body, sould and computer. Anyhow, my addressbook was still intact after the excursion - and before I really let this latest sudo-prebinding -root/ -force run , I need to know how much time I might be wasting - how many cups of coffee might be required to sit and watch? And how can installers be so arbitrary or hard headed to rerun something on their own , rather than the administrator's terms? Marta On Apr 21, 2005, at 0:33, Jerry Yeager wrote:
> It sounds like during the install, the installer decided it needed to > update the pre-bindings for everything again. This happens every now > and then for odd reasons. > Pre-bindings are how all of the various programs, program parts, > libraries, etc. know about each other and get used by each other. In > 10.0 this updating was done by hand, (and essentially in 10.1 as well > - though the installer was supposed to take care of it). Starting in > 10.2 Apple changed the way this was handled, because to update the > pre-bindings on the whole system, during an install takes a lot of > time. > > It looks like you ran into one of those now and then situations where > it (the installer) decided to update the whole system again instead of > just a few items. > > If you want to see this done by hand and waste some time, open the > Terminal app and type in > sudo update_prebinding -root / -force > > You will be asked for your admin password. Be prepared to watch weird > sayings and obscure listings go scrolling up the terminal window. It > can be amusing for the first few minutes, fascinating for a few more, > but eh, it usually loses its fun value after a while. Unless it is > raining on a Tuesday morning in February in Bismarck at the airport. > > Jerry > > On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Alex Whitman wrote: > >> Ward and Jerry, >> >> Yes, I did a disk repair, and no Firewire devices were even the the >> same room. >> >> Somehow, while I was typing my SOS message and waiting for your >> replies, it fixed itself. It seemed to need 30 minutes to get its >> bits in order. I have Finder back and trashed PithHelmet. Safari is >> running fine. >> >> Thanks for the help; sorry for the false alarm. You guys are great. >> >> Alex >> >> >> On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:18 PM, Ward Oldham wrote: >> >>> Hey Alex, >>> >>> Did you perform a disk repair (directory repair) first? >>> Did you install the update with all firewire devices disconnected? >>> Will Safari run without the Finder? (it should) ?and if so, try >>> downloading and installing the combo version of the 10.3.9 update. >>> >>> Ward >>> >>> Ward Oldham, MacDude >>> MacTown >>> 1041 Bardstown Road >>> Louisville, KY ?40204 >>> 502-485-1243 >>> ward at mactown.us >>> http://www.mactown.us >>> >>> >>> From: ahw <alylex at mac.com> >>> Reply-To: <macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> >>> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:54:37 -0400 >>> To: <macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> >>> Subject: MacGroup: 10.3.9 - no finder >>> >>> I just installed the updates, 10.3.9 and the Security pack, on my G4 >>> iBook. >>> >>> Repaired permissions >>> Ran MacJanitor to take care of cron jobs >>> turned off all other apps >>> installed the updates from Software Update >>> allowed it to restart itself (this took a very long time) >>> >>> The dock, wallpaper, and desktop icons look just like they should, >>> but >>> there is no top menu bar. The day/time, volume control, etc appear >>> in >>> the upper right corner of the screen where they should be, but >>> there's >>> no grey stripe and no blue apple, or any of the other options that >>> should be in the upper left. Apple Mail is working, can be accessed >>> from the dock, and has a top menu bar. Safari is crashing instantly >>> because of Pith Helmet. I would just trash Pith Helmet, but I can't >>> seem to open a Finder window. I would repair permissions again, but >>> I >>> don't know how to get there either. >>> >>> When no apps are open, the spinning multi-chromatic beachball spins >>> and >>> spins and spins. >>> >>> What am I missing? How do I get into Finder? I appeal to those in >>> the >>> know. >>> >>> Sigh. Thanks. >>> >>> Alex Whitman >>> >>> >>> >>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will >>> | be April 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. >>> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> >>> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> >>> >> >> >> >> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will >> | be April 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. >> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> >> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> >> >> > ----------------------------------- > Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if > I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. > > > > > | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will > | be April 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. > | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> > | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be April 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>