Great synopsis Andy, many thanks. Seems many have already known of the problems with Quicken and have sought other solutions.
John On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Andy Arnold wrote: > I would be careful with Quicken Essentials. I believe I read that it was not > good at exporting the files in a format that is easily importable into > another finance program. So you may find you are locked into Quicken going > forward. I used to teach seminars on using Quicken, so believe me, I was a > big supporter for years. I spent most of last weekend trying all the > solutions out there. Here is what I found: > > > There are several low cost options, but very limited in functionality. I > can't remember all the names... > > The ones that do stand out are: > > Moneywell- neat idea but not very good on investment tracking > > Money 4 -- very nice interface, but lacking basic functions like hiding > accounts. Several of my banks would not download. Entering transactions is > not as easy as quicken as they are entered on a separate area on the right. > Customer support questions were only answered by one guy, and hit or miss (v4 > was just released so maybe they were overwhelmed, and he did say other > features like acct hiding were on the way). If several of these items were > fixed/working, this would be a strong contender.. it's only about $20 for > limited time > > SeeFinance - Importing went very well, download of banking info went well... > the interface is just not that polished, and entering transactions is not > intuitive. This would still be my runner-up choice.. it's $29 > > iBank - I tried this one first, and moved on as I didn't like some of the > graphics and didn't realize you could group like accounts. After trying all > the others, I came back to it and spent more time. I found that it imported > all of my Quicken 2007 accounts (probably 3 dozen if you include my closed > zero balance accounts that still have data I want tracked). Banking downloads > are smooth. Some interface tweaks in prefs hid the ugly bank icons I didn't > like. Reporting is decent. I have not tried the budgeting feature (but didn't > use that in Quicken either so I can't compare). At $39 it's more, but I'm > sticking with this one for now > > > > On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:31 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Send MacGroup mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of MacGroup digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: MacGroup Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 (Rick Burnett) >> 2. Re: MacGroup Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 (John Robinson) >> >> From: Rick Burnett <[email protected]> >> Date: July 6, 2011 9:26:26 PM EDT >> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] MacGroup Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 >> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> I've been using iBank for a few years now and I prefer it to the other >> solutions that I've tried. >> the iPhone app is nice to have (especially with over the air syncing) and an >> iPad app is on the way. >> It really has helped us get control of our finances. Now I can track where >> our money was spent down to the penny. >> >> Rick >> >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:24 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: >> Andy, >> >> By the way, please let us know how you like iBank. I had never heard of it >> before your email so if you take the plunge could you update us on your >> likes and dislikes? >> >> Many thanks. >> >> John >> >> >> On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Andy Arnold wrote: >> >>> Here was my response to Intuit after receiving their email today: >>> >>> I've used Quicken for Mac since 1996. I'm letting you know how disappointed >>> I am that I am switching to iBank. You have consistently failed to deliver >>> a quality product for at least 4 years (really you should have had feature >>> parity with Quicken for Windows years before). Not having a timely solution >>> for Lion is the final straw. There are now plenty of feature-rich >>> alternatives. Switching was painful, I really didn't want to do it, but >>> felt like I had no worthy option from Intuit. Mint.com with no transaction >>> history? Are you kidding? Switch to Quicken for Windows? I'd rather use >>> paper and pencil. Quicken Essentials? Do you even read your own press >>> coverage? I was a Quicken Inner Circle participant, so am very, very >>> disappointed... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 7:47 PM, [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send MacGroup mailing list submissions to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of MacGroup digest..." >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Quicken (John Robinson) >>>> >>>> From: John Robinson <[email protected]> >>>> Date: July 6, 2011 7:47:05 PM EDT >>>> To: Topics Macintosh computers related to Apple and >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [MacGroup] Quicken >>>> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, did any of you receive the email I did today from Intuit? Seems >>>> they are "evaluating support for the Mac". >>>> >>>> Hope this screenshot doesn't make the email too large >>>> >>>> >>>> <PastedGraphic-1.png> >>>> >>>> And of you plan to go to Lion and don't upgrade to their cannibalized >>>> program for the Mac you can always.... >>>> >>>> >>>> <PastedGraphic-2.png> >>>> Any other options out there besides Quicken that work well on the Mac and >>>> will be allowed by most banks? >>>> >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacGroup mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacGroup mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >> >> >> >> >> >> From: John Robinson <[email protected]> >> Date: July 6, 2011 9:31:09 PM EDT >> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] MacGroup Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 >> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> Rick, >> >> Thanks, glad to hear. If others have used iBanking let us know for soon we >> will have to be making a decision on Quicken. I suppose iBanking is Lion >> ready? >> >> I also use a payroll program for the office and it integrates with Quicken >> by exporting a .qif file to then be imported to Quicken. Does anyone know >> if iBanking will import .gif files or is that a Quicken format that is >> handled by the payroll software and is specific to Quicken? >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Rick Burnett wrote: >> >>> I've been using iBank for a few years now and I prefer it to the other >>> solutions that I've tried. >>> the iPhone app is nice to have (especially with over the air syncing) and >>> an iPad app is on the way. >>> It really has helped us get control of our finances. Now I can track where >>> our money was spent down to the penny. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:24 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Andy, >>> >>> By the way, please let us know how you like iBank. I had never heard of it >>> before your email so if you take the plunge could you update us on your >>> likes and dislikes? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Andy Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> Here was my response to Intuit after receiving their email today: >>>> >>>> I've used Quicken for Mac since 1996. I'm letting you know how >>>> disappointed I am that I am switching to iBank. You have consistently >>>> failed to deliver a quality product for at least 4 years (really you >>>> should have had feature parity with Quicken for Windows years before). Not >>>> having a timely solution for Lion is the final straw. There are now plenty >>>> of feature-rich alternatives. Switching was painful, I really didn't want >>>> to do it, but felt like I had no worthy option from Intuit. Mint.com with >>>> no transaction history? Are you kidding? Switch to Quicken for Windows? >>>> I'd rather use paper and pencil. Quicken Essentials? Do you even read your >>>> own press coverage? I was a Quicken Inner Circle participant, so am >>>> very, very disappointed... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 7:47 PM, [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Send MacGroup mailing list submissions to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of MacGroup digest..." >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Quicken (John Robinson) >>>>> >>>>> From: John Robinson <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: July 6, 2011 7:47:05 PM EDT >>>>> To: Topics Macintosh computers related to Apple and >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [MacGroup] Quicken >>>>> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, did any of you receive the email I did today from Intuit? Seems >>>>> they are "evaluating support for the Mac". >>>>> >>>>> Hope this screenshot doesn't make the email too large >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.png> >>>>> >>>>> And of you plan to go to Lion and don't upgrade to their cannibalized >>>>> program for the Mac you can always.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <PastedGraphic-2.png> >>>>> Any other options out there besides Quicken that work well on the Mac and >>>>> will be allowed by most banks? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacGroup mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacGroup mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacGroup mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup > > > _______________________________________________ > MacGroup mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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