William,

This is the answer, it’s EXACTLY what the girls experienced…so, what do I do?  
I would do away with Facebook immediately but my wife loves to stay in touch 
with her friends..

I appreciate you sending.


John

> On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:17 PM, William Micou <derby...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> I sent a link separately to a podcast I listen to- ‘Reply All’,  that asked 
> if Facebook was using our phone/ computer’s mics to listen. 
> Here it is for this thread:
> Listen to #109 Is Facebook Spying on You? from Reply All in Podcasts. 
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> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:56 PM, John Robinson <profilecoven...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I think the only possibility is an App that may have slipped by Apple.  What 
>> I think is more plausible is the home is leased throughout the year, either 
>> the gal that owns it has a device that she keeps track of the tenants & 
>> doesn’t want to admit or one of the tenants has installed something.  I’ve 
>> sent her all my suggestions including installing a Fingbox so she can track 
>> what’s on her network & be notified when something had been added.  I’m sure 
>> there’s an explanation 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:41 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hopefully you find out it’s not an Apple device listening.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 6:25 PM, John Robinson <profilecoven...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Sounds reasonable Tom…there has to be an explanation.  This wasn’t in a 
>>>> hotel, it’s the vacation home of one of the girls.  I’m going to write her 
>>>> in the morning attempting to get more info. about the house.  I know that 
>>>> many of the smart TV’s can be controlled by outside forces, turning on the 
>>>> camera and I assume the microphones….some folks put tape over the camera 
>>>> to attempt some privacy…
>>>> 
>>>> These ladies are quite sharp, well educated, tech savvy, the lady that 
>>>> owns the home I put into Mac computer’s years ago, her husband is a 
>>>> Windows guy but she wanted to go Mac so I took a day off and went to her 
>>>> home to instruct her on a few items, she caught on quickly and only 
>>>> contacted me a couple times later, now she is well versed and I never hear 
>>>> from her…
>>>> 
>>>> I say this only to explain they aren’t the type that can hardly find the 
>>>> on button…while there my daughter rewrote a Real Estate contract, sent to 
>>>> her client for their signature then sent the signed document to the 
>>>> seller’s agent…she also wrote an offer on another piece of property for 
>>>> another client, all on her iPad….
>>>> 
>>>> But understanding how their voices could direct advertising is something 
>>>> they want to understand.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 11:32 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this 1984?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:50 PM John Robinson <profilecoven...@me.com 
>>>>> <mailto:profilecoven...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My daughter and two of her friends went to Hilton Head for a few days.  
>>>>> All three use nothing but Apple Products, there is an Apple TV in the 
>>>>> home, iPads, and three iPhones that belong to each of the ladies.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One evening they were discussing a product, TV was not on, Apple TV was 
>>>>> not on.  None of them had their iPhones on, none of them were using their 
>>>>> phones to do a search for the product.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The next morning all three of the iPhones popped up advertisements for 
>>>>> the product they had ONLY verbally been discussing the evening 
>>>>> before….freaked them out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, they tried it again, shutting off everything but leaving the phones 
>>>>> in their purses.  They discussed a completely different product…sure 
>>>>> enough all three soon received information on this new subject.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We all know that doing a search for a product will bring scads of 
>>>>> advertisements for the product and competing products..
>>>>> 
>>>>> But, if there were no searches, only verbal discussions how is this 
>>>>> information being harvested by some devise in the home.  I don’t know if 
>>>>> they have an Echo or an Alexa.  I suppose if they do then even if the 
>>>>> devise is spying on them how does it know each of their email addresses?  
>>>>> If they had been emailing the night before do these devices have the 
>>>>> ability to skim the packets and obtain their emails?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If they don’t have an Echo or Alexa  (and I’ll check) does anyone have a 
>>>>> clue how this could happen?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What if they have an Alarm system, could it be listening and selling the 
>>>>> info. to Amazon and others?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I told them I would ask the group to see what you thought.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks a bunch,
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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