Hi Neil,

Don't be confused by the "it's just an app" look of Mac OS X Lion Server. The 
app is only a front-end to the install process and I would guess it is *not* 
easy to back out of.  I would suggest a clone of your Mac on a Firewire drive 
so you can boot from it and play around before you go all out.

Congratulations and all the best with the retirement thing - not sure I'll ever 
get there.

Cheers,
Ashley.


On 17/02/2012, at 8:32 PM, Neil Laubenthal wrote:

> On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:44 AM,2/17, Ashley Aitken wrote:
>> Hi Neil,
>> 
>> Firstly, I am not an expert on Lion Server - I have never used it although I 
>> have read about it and in the short term will probably install it on one of 
>> our Lion machines to check it out further.
>> 
>> Two things though:
>> 
>> 1. Lion Server when released was not really ready for prime time.
>> 
>> 2. Mac OS X Server in the past has not been very amenable to changing the IP 
>> address. Generally speaking I think a server is not meant to be used in 
>> situations when the IP address will be changing regularly, for example, as 
>> you travel in your RV.  
>> 
>> Of course, extra hardware can help with these problems.  For example, if you 
>> had a modem/router that worked with USB 3G, and put the server on a static 
>> private IP address.
> 
> 
> Hi Ashley, thanks for the input. I will troll through Apple's boards for 
> additional guidance. Like you . . .I've considered just playing with it 
> awhile and seeing if it works or not . . .I'll probably end up doing that and 
> either keeping a clone of the file server in case I decide to revert or else 
> just run it in Parallels Desktop VM for testing purposes. Since it's just an 
> app instead of a full blown server install and since Apple has a KB article 
> on how to disable it . . .it's probably a bit easier to back out of then SL 
> server was. The server will keep the same IP always anyway . . .we'll be 
> using a WiFi Ranger for our router/firewall. This is similar to an Airport 
> except instead of only having a single incoming WAN port (for the cable modem 
> or FIOS modem) it's got both incoming wifi for using campground wifi as well 
> as 3G air card input and satellite internet input; we'll have a choice of 3 
> incoming WAN ports which can be configured. On the LAN side the WiFi Ranger 
> provides NAT and DHCP like an Airport does and everything inside will either 
> have a static IP (file server) or a MAC address reserved DHCP but 
> quasi-static IP . . .like you I found that SL server really didn't like it's 
> IP changing much.
> 
> I may also end up just keeping the setup the way I have it now . . .as I said 
> it works but I occasionally have permissions problems on newly created 
> folders or files on the share. I could get around this by either using Guest 
> access instead of a particular user or else making the sharing user an admin 
> user . . .but either of those bothers my "former Windows sysadmin and IT 
> security guy" hat despite the relatively low insecurity either causes with an 
> encrypted wifi and border firewall/router in place.
> 
> Since I already have both Parallels and a developer membership it won't cost 
> me anything to try things out other than a little time . . .and us retired 
> folk have plenty of that; albeit not nearly as much as non-retired folks 
> think we have and not nearly as much as I thought we would have. We're 
> finding that this retirement stuff is pretty busy. 
> 
> -----------------------------------------------
> There are only three kinds of stress; your basic nuclear stress, cooking 
> stress, and A$$hole stress. The key to their relationship is Jello.
> 
> neil
> 
> 
> 
> 

--
Ashley Aitken
Perth, Western Australia
mrhatken at mac dot com
Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!)







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