Thanks for the excellent TM info! This gives me a lot of hope. I'll proceed to 
requisition the drive out of storage and hope for the best!

-Carl


> On Sep 12, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2019-09-12, at 11:14 AM, Carl Hoefs <newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I was hoping to get the data off the drive. I was unsure how TM drives 
>> work when apart from the system they were backing up. If I connect the TM 
>> HDD to another system, does TM know the backups on it aren't for that 
>> system? Would the TM backup data be available through TM on the new system? 
>> Or would I need to cd into the drive and copy files off manually?
> 
> There's some variations over time, but basically the backup directory 
> contains a top-level "per machine" section, that is used to identify if the 
> backup is for a given machine or not. When you use (I think) associateDisk to 
> take ownership of a backup disk for a new machine (typically used when you 
> restore a backup onto a new machine if the old mother board dies, etc), that 
> just renames that directory to indicate current ownership.
> 
> The files on the backup basically are untouched. They are placed in 
> directories that do not permit any write operations of any kind (ACL lists). 
> All files/directories get two extended attributes to indicate that they are 
> in a backup and the approximate range of which backups. If there were any 
> special permissions, those should be indicated in another special extended 
> attribute.
> 
> Modern Finder should, on copy, restore the permissions/ACL's of the files to 
> normal when they come out of the backup directory. Older systems only did 
> that when you restored through the time machine interface or the tmutil 
> command.
> 
> Normal file system commands will work just fine. The TM directories just look 
> like normal read-only directories containing the files. If you are not using 
> any special ACL's or extended attributes, everything will treat them 
> normally, including normal "chmod" permissions and ownerships
> 
> You might need to use "Browse other time machine disks" if you wanted to look 
> at it through the TM graphical interface.
> 
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