Hi Jordan. Correct, I made a mistake on the subject of the email, one
I certainly know better. I addressed this in a previous email, and it
indeed is something I regret, as it only muddies this situation.
While I do not want to take the liberty, if everyone sees fit, hijack
the subject, and correct it. Do not even bother putting in a [was:
previous subject], let's just correct it. My bad.
Comments below...
On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Ultimately, I don't think anyone is going to be able to "force" the
darwinports.com folks from doing what they're doing (and I really
wish the original poster had managed to keep the notion of
opendarwin / darwinports separate in his head, since they're really
not related issues, yet there's opendarwin in the subject on this
whole thread). Those who were around back when macports was chosen
as the new name will know that this was, in fact, one of the big
reasons for doing so. This "problem" has been around for as long as
MacPorts has been renamed.
I do not think forcing him to give up the domain will happen, but I do
think that presenting some other data I have found about the
individual may make him willingly give it up. I outlines some of my
ideas on in a thread I was CC'd in on the MP Managers list, but have
not heard anything more. I am not on that list, so perhaps I was
removed from the CC loop and am just unaware of the replies.
At this point, I do not think it is good to be public with some of the
findings.
The real problem at this point, however, is not darwinports.com and
all this chest-thumping and hand wringing is giving me nothing but
feelings of deja-vu since we have done it all before. It didn't
help then and it's utterly unlikely to accomplish anything now. The
real problem here is one of branding. Why/where are users even
hearing the name "darwinports" when it's been essentially dead for
over 3 years? Projects rename themselves all the time and somehow
manage to make the name change stick. What this project needs to
ask itself is why the name change has not stuck as successfully here
and then fix that problem rather than re-fighting old battles.
I suppose in part because there is a reason companies spend millions
on branding, and so rigorously defend their brand from confusion, to
avoid this exact case. The only thing I do know, is I have first hand
experience with users I try to get to look into MP's, only to be told
they did, and it sucked. I dig deeper, and am right in the middle of
this very confusion, they run into the wrong domain somehow.
There is a lot that can be done to clean up and better position the MP
website. I outlines those things in a previous email because I feel I
am strong in those areas. Myself, and one other were willing to put
forth a donation to deal with the protection of a few rather obvious
domain names.
The last thing I want is for those that work on the internal of MP to
be bothered with web development of the site, and sorting out google
ranking issues. That is certainly something I am able to do, if I was
given someone to work with to hash out the details of how to best
approach it.
Thanks for your comments.
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