I've created a ticket with some additional info.

https://trac.macports.org/ticket/48759

Note that the subversion sync seems to not be running, but at least trac is up!

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:51, Sean Farley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:32, Sean Farley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 09:21, Jack Howarth <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You really will want to rewrite the llvm37 Portfile to use a cmake
>>>>>> build.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not unless we can depend on cmake existing out-of-tree.  If we need to 
>>>>> depend on port:cmake, that introduces cycles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How? I only see these as dependencies for cmake:
>>>>
>>>> $ port rdeps cmake
>>>> The following ports are dependencies of cmake @3.3.1_0:
>>>> curl
>>>>   pkgconfig
>>>>     libiconv
>>>>       gperf
>>>>   zlib
>>>>     xz
>>>>       gettext
>>>>         expat
>>>>         ncurses
>>>>   openssl
>>>>   curl-ca-bundle
>>>>     perl5
>>>>       perl5.16
>>>>         gdbm
>>>> bzip2
>>>> libarchive
>>>>   libxml2
>>>>   lzo2
>>>>
>>>> I see that libomp depends on cmake but cmake doesn't depend on libomp
>>>> nor llvm so how is it a cycle?
>>>
>>> You're not looking at build dependencies.
>>>
>>> On older OS veersions, cmake requires either macports-clang-X.Y (for libc++ 
>>> clients) or macports-gcc-X.Y (for libstdc++ clients) to compile due to its 
>>> C++11 requirement.
>>
>> Ah, I see more dependencies now. The only C++11 requirements I see
>> though are with the 'gui' variant. So, wouldn't we be able to depend on
>> 'cmake -gui' or am I missing something else?
>
> We don't have support for expressing that well in base, so I'm just very 
> conservative about bringing in any dependencies into the toolchain.  I'm 
> happy to add non-default variants to llvm and clang, but adding a new 
> dependency (especially one that can bring in both perl and python) is a bit 
> scary. =/
>
> Note that building a newer toolchain on Tiger is a bit of a challenge, and we 
> ended up using a +bootstrap variant in the apple-gcc42 port to help out with 
> that, but I'd prefer not to have to resort to such tactics for more recent OS 
> versions.  Specifically, I'd prefer to not have to tell people to install 
> cmake -gui, then clang-3.7, then cmake with their desired variants.
>
> I guess it would be ok to have such users use clang-3.4 to build cmake to 
> build clang-3.8, but that's also sub-optimal.  I'm certainly not against it, 
> though, since it is only an issue for older OS versions.
>
> If you (or someone else) wants to take a shot at this, please do so.  I think 
> at minimum, we'd need to:
>     a) Update the llvm-3.8 port with a dependency on port:cmake and relevant 
> other changes
>     b-1) Update the cmake port to check if clang-3.8 is installed and 
> blacklist it if it isn't
>     b-2) Come up with a better way (in base) of ensuring that a compiler is 
> not used to satisfy its own dependencies if it is not already installed
>
> --Jeremy
>
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