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> On Sep 12, 2016, at 20:57, Brandon Allbery <allber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia 
>> <jerem...@apple.com> wrote:
>> Please file radars and point me to them, so I can make sure they get routed 
>> to the right place (likely as dupes, but dupes are very useful "votes" for 
>> bugs).
> 
> I just noticed this. Received wisdom "out here" is that ``nobody is listening 
> and nobody ever responds, so don't bother filing radars.''

That is very very very false.

> If you really are still using it, you have procedural and/or communication 
> issues.

There is a radar for that as well, and I have some opinions on the matter, but 
it is not something that I have any control over.

Really, filing radars is valuable even if they are just duplicates. They are 
cheap to file and value able to the development process.

Yes, ADC is sometimes not the best middleman.  If you are hitting an obstacle 
with ADC, reach out to Apple engineers that you know directly to enquire about 
them.  We are all over forums, stackoverflow, twitter, etc.  And we want to 
help make the products better for users and developers.

If you don't file a radar about an issue, there is no guarantee that the right 
Apple engineer knows about it. I came across a stackoverflow question a few 
months ago with an answer that "it is a known problem that ... so the 
workaround is just ..." but it was never reported to Apple until I happened 
upon the post and filed a radar about it.  The issue was fixed (internally) a 
few days after that, but had someone externally filed a radar, it would've been 
fixed even sooner.


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> brandon s allbery kf8nh                               sine nomine associates
> allber...@gmail.com                                  ballb...@sinenomine.net
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