On Nov 11, 2018, at 05:15, Christopher Jones wrote:

> On 10 Nov 2018, at 11:02 pm, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2018, at 02:53, Vincent Habchi wrote:
>> 
>>> Ryan,
>>> 
>>>> I don't know why Apple is doing this to us. This contradicts what we 
>>>> previously knew about how SDKs were meant to function. The SDKs are 
>>>> supposed to be the same as the system headers of a particular version. We 
>>>> may want to file a bug report with Apple about this. Maybe then they will 
>>>> fix it in a future version of Mojave.
>>> 
>>> Do you want to proceed as a member of the Apple team, or do you prefer me 
>>> to do so?
>>> 
>>>> Unless you do have /usr/include on your system. Do you? For users who have 
>>>> installed /usr/include using the hidden installer package, you might need 
>>>> to have the port set configure.sdkroot to the path of the SDK, even when 
>>>> MacPorts wouldn't otherwise have done so.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I do. I was not even aware I shouldn’t. TBH, I don’t even remember 
>>> using a “hidden” installer package. 
>> 
>> When Mojave was released, the Xcode command line tools for Mojave did not 
>> install /usr/include (unlike all previous versions). They did install an 
>> installer pkg somewhere inside /Library/Developer which you could then 
>> separately install to get /usr/include. We believed Apple did this because 
>> they wanted to phase out the use of /usr/include, and were only keeping this 
>> hidden installer pkg around for users who couldn't adapt to its removal so 
>> quickly. We assume future versions of Xcode command line tools won't provide 
>> this, so we want MacPorts to work when /usr/include isn't there.
>> 
>> However, on my own Mojave test machine, I now have /usr/include. I was 
>> playing around with that hidden installer pkg, but I had not intended to 
>> install it. Maybe I inadvertently installed it, or maybe a Mojave or Xcode 
>> or Xcode command line tools update caused it to be installed automatically. 
>> Maybe Apple has changed its mind about removing /usr/include in Mojave. I 
>> have not yet updated the Mojave buildbot worker past macOS 10.14.0 and Xcode 
>> 10.0, but when I do, I'll check if /usr/include appears there too.
> 
> I install 10.14 in a VM yesterday, to get a clean environment to run some 
> tests. 
> 
> I did this by copying and upgrade my 10.13 VM. It is now running Xcode 10.1, 
> and I don’t have /usr/include in it

I've updated the buildbot machine, and it also still doesn't have /usr/include. 
But I also haven't installed the command line tools there. Maybe if I did that, 
/usr/include would now show up.

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