On Apr 13 08:59:56, io...@macports.org wrote: > On 04/01/2017 06:13 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > Since it looks like speex has been superseded by opus, I guess there won't > > be any further major development on speex, so I agree having -devel ports > > isn't useful anymore. > > Well, probably not, but speex is/was notorious for releasing rcs and betas > for a > very long time before the actual stable release. That was probably the reason > for having a -devel variant.
My point is that the speex-devel port is exactly the same as the speex port. They are two names for the same thing. Same for speexdsp and speexdsp-devel. There is no point having the same thing as two different ports. > With newer speex versions, speex and speexDSP were split. Ironically, speexDSP > was never released as a stable version (or at least not yet, see my comment > above...), Yes, it seems SpeexDSP 1.2rc3 from January, 2015 is the latest. > so when I updated the port(s) the only way to go was to put them both > to the same version, including stable speex and pre-release speexDSP. > Otherwise, we wouldn't have speexDSP, which programs do tend > to use in addition to plain speex. I agree that we want to keep both speex and speexdsp. It's just the -devel versions that should be removed, being just another copy. > My idea was to keep them synched and once a stable version > of any is released, switch to that + whenever a new rc/beta/whatever > is released after that bump the -devel ports only. > I have no idea how likely that is anymore. OK, I see. That sounds like a reason to have both speex and speex-devel. But I don;t thin there is any point in that now ... > All that said: even while speex might be deprecated in favor of OPUS > (and so is SILK), it doesn't mean that development and usage > is completely dead. Having no speex implementation available > would be a bad idea. Of course. People still use it, we need to keep it. > > Before actually removing them, the -devel ports should be replaced_by the > > non-devel ports for a time, to give users of the -devel ports a chance to > > upgrade to the non-devel ports. > > Go ahead if you want to. https://trac.macports.org/ticket/53908 Jan