You’re right, thanks :) Back to hacking and learning!

On 18 nov 2010, at 17:19, Matt Aimonetti wrote:

> Alright chill out people, there is no need for a drama thread.
> 
> For people who don't know Ryan Davis, Ryan is a well known personality of the 
> Ruby community.
> He's a great engineer recognized for his talent and contributions to the 
> community. However, he is also known to be very passionate about what he 
> believes in and could be sometimes seen as having a little problem with the 
> form and the content ;)
> 
> In this case, I do agree with Ryan about the content and I think that his 
> arguments are right. The final argument being that even if you disagree, you 
> will find others who strongly believe that this kind of syntax is wrong and 
> you might find yourself in long arguments with passionate people.
> Programming isn't yet a religion, so feel free to disagree and hate Ryan as 
> much as you want. The point being that now you know that some people see 
> assigning values in conditionals as major programming sin & hopefully you 
> understand their view point.
> 
> Let's not get lost in the semantic and/or the potentially trolling form ;) 
> 
> Back to hacking and learning!
> 
> - Matt
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Eloy Duran <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don’t want to discuss this at length, but “clearly an exaggeration” is not 
> necessarily true. This is an international mailing-list, i.e. not all native 
> English speakers. As such it's better to refrain from it and instead use 
> clear language such as your “strongly discouraged, because…”. To me it was 
> clear that those specific words were an exaggeration, but there definitely 
> was some judgement being passed in name of ‘our community’, something which I 
> am not happy to have on this list.
> 
> The gist of it is: anyone should be able to ask any type of question and they 
> should not have any fear doing so. Something that newbies can have a hard 
> time with.
> 
> Cheers,
> Eloy
> 
> On Nov 18, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Scott Ribe wrote:
> 
> > On Nov 18, 2010, at 3:02 AM, Eloy Duran wrote:
> >
> >> I see no problem with this, as long as you know what you’re doing (which 
> >> is with almost anything). Nor have I witnessed a community where ‘beat 
> >> downs’ are acceptable, it’s certainly not this ML. YMMV.
> >
> > While "beat down" is clearly an exaggeration, the assignment inside 
> > condition form is certainly strongly discourage in many communities, 
> > because it's so easy to type by accident, and sometimes surprisingly hard 
> > to notice ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Scott Ribe
> > [email protected]
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> >
> >
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