Further to this issue, and your finding that it appears to be linked to
Legacy BIOS emulation, I found that my vga mode worked fine as an
arguement passed to LILO in lilo.conf as vga=normal or vga=extended in
either the global or kernel sections of the conf, however:
1) once I attempted to use vga=ask - the machine would freeze up on
providing the menu to choose from the available modes.
2) Somehow I managed to end up with Two Tux's in the rEFIt menu I think
because I followed a lilo.conf that specified boot=/dev/sda in global and
then boot=/dev/sda3 in the kernel section.  Now I get offered two options
after OSX - boot from sda and boot from sda3 - I tried uninstalling lilo
using various methods but ended up unable to get rid of the two entries -
they both work - and also always now offer "invalid vga mode specified"
and I can only press space to continue in normal mode - no amount of
tweaking and recalling lilo will invoke any change in this behaviour and I
doubt that the lilo basic parameters are really taking effect - including
noapic etc.

Does anyone know the best approach for framebuffer mode for the ATI
Drivers (I am using 8.27.10).

Will


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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:27:34 +0200
> From: "Ludovic Rousseau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Mactel-linux-users] boot camp and/or new firmware?
> To: mactel-linux-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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> On 15/08/06, Will Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As far as I know the proprietry ATI drivers *do* require legacy BIOS
>> emulation but this is provided by the latest Apple SMC Firmware update
>> not
>> Boot Camp and although I am using Boot Camp I only used it to prep the
>> XP
>> final partition on my system and think that rEFIt is doing most of the
>> work.
>
> Another problem is the confusion between:
> - "MacBook Pro 17-inch SMC Firmware Update" [1]
> and
> - "MacBook Pro (early 2006) Firmware Update 1.0.1" [2]
>
> The SMC upgrade is less than 1MB and only concern fans and some other
> things. SMC stands for System Management Control. It does not contain
> any BIOS and Boot Camp is not happy if you just install this upgrade.
>
> What you need is the firmware upgrade 1.0.1 (2.8 MB).The Apple site is
> not very clear on that. Boot Camp is not either since it request a
> firmware upgrade but does not give any URL or specific information
> about _which_ upgrade is needed.
>
> I hope this will help new users.
>
> Bye,
>
> [1]
> http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookpro17inchsmcfirmwareupdate.html
> [2]
> http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookproearly2006firmwareupdate101.html
>
> --
>   Dr. Ludovic Rousseau
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:39:52 +0200
> From: "Ludovic Rousseau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Mactel-linux-users] sometimes macbook kernel panic on
>       boot
> To: mactel-linux-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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> On 14/08/06, Pierre Dinh-van <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm using Ubuntu dapper on my Macbook 2GHz, in dual boot with mac os x
>> using
>> rEFIt (no bootcamp).
>
> You can boot in EFI or BIOS mode from rEFIt. BootCamp does not provide
> the BIOS and is only useful for Windows.
>
> I think you can tell if you are in EFI mode or not by checking the
> presence of /proc/efi/systab and /sys/firmware/efi/systab. That is
> what dmidecode does.
>
>> I noticed that very often, the Macbook can't boot on my Linux kernel,
>> stopping
>> with a kernel panic :
>>
>> (I copy manually the interesting lines)
>>
>> "
>> [...]
>> Total of 2 processors activated (5825.50 BogoMIPS).
>> ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
>> ..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=1 pin2=-1
>> ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
>> ...trying to set up timer (IRQ0) through the 8259A ... failed.
>> ...trying to set up timer as Virtual Wire IRQ... failed.
>> ...trying to set up timer as ExtINT IRQ... failed :(.
>> Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! Boot with
>> apic=debug
>> and send a report. Then try booting with the 'noapic' option
>
> I see the exact problem using a manually compiled 2.6.17.8 kernel.
>
> I think this problem is related to the use of a BIOS since I never
> have the problem when booting in EFI mode (in more than 2 months). I
> switched to BIOS yesterday and I had the problem a couple of times
> today.
>
> I also had the kernel complaining about an unsupported VGA mode just
> after booting. I had "vga=796" in my /etc/lilo.conf. It worked well a
> few times but could not boot with it now. Even after a power off/power
> on cycle.
>
> Maybe the BIOS provided by Apple or ATI or etc. is not so great?
>
> And I need to use a BIOS only to use this buggy ATI proprietary driver,
> grrr!
>
> Bye,
>
> --
>   Dr. Ludovic Rousseau
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:44:38 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Mactel-linux-users] Can't use GRUB?
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> When I try to install GRUB I always get the following error:
>
>    The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
>
> What am I doing wrong?  Lilo works OK.
> I'm using Debian testing, GRUB version 0.97-13.
>
> Here is a sample session showing that the file does exist and is on
> a partition which I believe GRUB can use.
>
>    ~# grub-install /dev/sda
>    The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
>    ~# grub-install /dev/sda4
>    The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
>    ~# l /boot/grub/stage1
>    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 2006-08-15 11:41 /boot/grub/stage1
>    ~# df /boot/grub/.
>    Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
>    /dev/sda4               122835     18826     97456  17% /boot
>    ~# grep sda4 /proc/mounts
>    /dev/sda4 /boot ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
>    ~#
>
> Any idea?
>
>
>         Stefan
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:50:29 +0200
> From: " Pascal Sp?rri " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Mactel-linux-users] Can't use GRUB?
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> When you want to use grub you have to patch it first. So that grub can
> install itself on the boot record of the partition..
>
> On 8/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> When I try to install GRUB I always get the following error:
>>
>>    The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?  Lilo works OK.
>> I'm using Debian testing, GRUB version 0.97-13.
>>
>> Here is a sample session showing that the file does exist and is on
>> a partition which I believe GRUB can use.
>>
>>    ~# grub-install /dev/sda
>>    The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
>>    ~# grub-install /dev/sda4
>>    The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
>>    ~# l /boot/grub/stage1
>>    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 2006-08-15 11:41 /boot/grub/stage1
>>    ~# df /boot/grub/.
>>    Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
>>    /dev/sda4               122835     18826     97456  17% /boot
>>    ~# grep sda4 /proc/mounts
>>    /dev/sda4 /boot ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
>>    ~#
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>>
>>         Stefan
>>
>>
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> Le mardi 15 ao?t 2006 17:50, Pascal Sp?rri a ?crit?:
>> When you want to use grub you have to patch it first. So that grub can
>> install itself on the boot record of the partition..
>
> And here is an howto for gentoo :
>
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Apple_MacBook#Grub
>
> --
> - M?langer 3 parts d'essence pour 1 part d'acide sulfurique.  Agiter
> le tout jusqu`? d?gagement complet des gaz.
> - Boucher la bouteille, et la mettre dans un sachet en papier.
> - Saupoudrer fortement de chlorate de potassium.
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> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:12:10 +0200
> From: " Pascal Sp?rri " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Ah thanks :D I was looking for that. Is there an ebuild for this patched
> grub? It would prevent grub from updating to an unpatched version.
>
> On 8/15/06, Pierre Dinh-van <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Le mardi 15 ao?t 2006 17:50, Pascal Sp?rri a ?crit:
>> > When you want to use grub you have to patch it first. So that grub can
>> > install itself on the boot record of the partition..
>>
>> And here is an howto for gentoo :
>>
>> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Apple_MacBook#Grub
>>
>> --
>> - M?langer 3 parts d'essence pour 1 part d'acide sulfurique.  Agiter
>> le tout jusqu`? d?gagement complet des gaz.
>> - Boucher la bouteille, et la mettre dans un sachet en papier.
>> - Saupoudrer fortement de chlorate de potassium.
>>
>>
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>>> When you want to use grub you have to patch it first. So that grub can
>>> install itself on the boot record of the partition..
>
>> And here is an howto for gentoo :
>
>> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Apple_MacBook#Grub
>
> This point to the patch
> http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/Projects/mini-xen/grub-a20.patch which only
> changes stage2/asm.S.  Is that really going to fix my problem?
>
>
>         Stefan
>
>
>
>
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