I have to agree with Donna about the HomePod. I have had Google nests, the mini ones, and overtime, Google Assistant is actually getting dumber. They’re taking longer and longer to respond and they often don’t have a clue. As for the Amazon devices, they’re OK too I suppose if you don’t mind questionable security. They’re good for SiriusXM which is mostly what I use them for and setting timers. But asking them for information is like the wild West. Siri has never been known for its great accuracy of information either, but it seems like Google and Amazon are getting dumber, a troubling trend.
Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2024, at 10:20 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Actually, the HomePod is a good product. The problem isn’t that the HomePod was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without first upgrading them to a software version supported by HomeKit.
In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does quite well, I think. We used to have Sonos speakers, and they were constantly dropping out and needing to be reconnected or reset. I don’t have any of that with the HomePods. Also, I think Apple does a much better job of managing security than Amazon Alexa does. Cheers, Donna On Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons <theleo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has turned out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my dad invited me to take with me when I moved out of his house. I also have a Google home hub which seems to work pretty good. Both of these devices can be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand about their defective product and work on a remedy to fix it. I feel bad for those people that were unfortunate enough to get a HomePod. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
Hi! I don’t want to get a HomePod. Not for this reason but I do not need it. However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me. I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any brand. Bless. /A 29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:
Hi all,
I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially impact anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini. Feel free to share with anyone who might benefit.
After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod mini, I found the following article. Buyer beware! Apparently Apple thinks it’s just fine to sell these things. I plan on returning mine, and will only buy another if the people at the Apple Store can definitively prove that it is running a more recent software version. | <HomePodandMini-feature-orange.jpeg> | |
The text of the article follows:
To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged into your Apple ID require a minimum software version. That includes HomePod speakers, which must be running at least HomePod software 16.2. However, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, there is a bug in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older versions of the software from being updated if iCloud end-to-end encryption has been turned on. This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 16.2 won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an update. Apple's support document explains what options are available to customers facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a HomePod mini, users can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and update it through Finder (or iTunes on a PC) by selecting the HomePod in the Finder sidebar and clicking the Restore HomePod option. This will update the speaker to the latest software, after which it can be properly set up. The full-size first-generation HomePod and the new 2023 HomePod have no USB-C port, so unless Apple includes a fix in iOS 16.3, which is expected to be released next week, owners of these speakers will have to temporarily turn off Advanced Data Protection to update the HomePod software. Apple outlines how to do that in the following way: - Turn off Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn off Advanced Data Protection.
- If you received an error message when you previously tried to set up your HomePod, you may need to reset your HomePod. Then set up your HomePod.
- Update your HomePod to the latest software using the Home app.
- Turn on Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn on Advanced Data Protection.
Apple advises anyone who temporarily turns off Advanced Data Protection to turn it back on immediately after their HomePod software is updated. Best, Donna
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