Right. Not that Youtube is all that accessible either. Or is it? I never really tried since I assumed the flash player would make it inaccessible to voiceover.
CB James & Nash wrote: > If you do this though does it mean that Youtube is no longer > accessible? I like ot listen to songs on there. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com> > *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:00 PM > *Subject:* Re: Apple ships known vulnerable version of Flash with > Snow Leopard > > To remove flash from Safari you can just delete the plugin which > is under > > /Library/Internet Plug-Ins > > Mine was called Flash Player.plugin > > CB > > Chris Hofstader wrote: >> I am largely ignorant of all but the most obvious non-VoiceOver >> settings in Safari. I would guess that, like IE and Firefox,, it >> would have a "turn off Flash" in it. A whole lot of sighted people >> turn off Flash, especially if they have a fairly slow connection and >> because, the majority of Flash content are stupid advertisements with >> animation and other glitz. >> >> Can one uninstall Flash from a Mac and, if so, what happens? With IE >> and FF, one gets a dialogue asking if you want to install the Flash >> plug-in or not and has a stop asking me about this box to check. >> >> It would probably be best if Safari had a way to turn Flash on and off >> so we could enjoy that handful of accessible sites but not waste the >> cycles on ads for a new Lexus with 0% financing. >> >> As I wrote last week, Flash, Flex and a variety of other Flash related >> items have three major areas that keep them inaccessible for Mac users >> in specific and screen reader users in general. On the Mac, we have >> the double wammy of Flash not talking to the accessibility API >> properly (if at all) and the issues that all screen reader users face. >> >> As an odd bit of history, GW Micro was the first At company to work >> with Adobe to make Flash accessible with a screen reader using an MSAA >> solution. We, at Freedom Scientific, followed suit as once Window- >> Eyes came out with support for it our phones started ringing off of >> the hook asking when we would have it in JAWS. So, the customers >> wanted Flash and we gave it to them. >> >> In the following release of Window-Eyes, one of its new features was a >> checkbox to turn off Flash support and it was on by default. In kind, >> we added such a setting so our users could keep Flash from wasting >> their time as well. >> >> To this day, years after JAWS and WE added Flash support, the vast >> majority of Flash content authors ignore the accessibility components >> (like labeling stuff) so, in JAWS for instance, one will often hear, >> "Start FLash, 1, 2, 3, 4, end Flash content." This is, of course, >> useless but, if one has Flash turned on, it will make browsing the >> page go much more slowly as whatever is happening in the Flash >> segment, it is using cycles, bandwidth or both. >> >> All of this makes me quite sad as I have some pretty good friends >> working on accessibility at Adobe and, as it comes to content, they >> are more frustrated than most users (of which there are some on the >> Adobe team). I honestly believe that Adobe wants to do the right >> thing but there are so many hurdles (large and small) on all platforms >> that organizing a single accessibility solution with a custom layer >> for each OS, becomes an enormous challenge. >> >> I am not paid a dime by Adobe and I never have been. I just think >> they have an enormous problem that is very hard to solve. >> >> Milligrams of caffeine per hour ratio is dangerously low, must get >> more to get through my email. >> >> Enjoy, >> cdh >> >> >> somewhere. >> On Sep 2, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >> >>> Flash may be inaccessible for voiceover but it is still downloading >>> and >>> running stuff on your mac, so you might want to upgrade. >>> >>> >>> http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2009/09/02/apple-ships-vulnerable-version-flash-snow-leopard/ >>> >>> CB >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---