I don't use muds, so that's not an issue for me, though I know this is
important to some people. I think someone was developing a mac client
called imud, but not sure what happened to it.
Original message:
Hmm, everything? Have you found a MUD client of the likes of Mush-z,
that is free? Also, there are very few games for the blind on mac,
although I must honestly say I don't play many games on Windows anyway, lol.
Sent from my iPod
On Apr 1, 2014, at 23:31, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
Yes, you can even reinstall your operating system completely without
sighted help, this is something windows does not provide. If someone
offered me a windows PC for free, I would say, thanks, but no thanks.
the mac does everything I need, and does it better than windows.
On Apr 1, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com> wrote:
All I have to say is that Mac is much much more stable than Windows
with a screen reader. If things go wrong, I rarely feel I'm out of
control. I am very rarely left in the middle of doing something without
speech whereas on Windows it was and still is a frequent occurrence. I
feel much more in control on my Mac.
Andrew
On 1 Apr 2014, at 20:21, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Jenine, I can basically echo what you say. I was a windows user from
the windows 95 os. In fact, I worked for Microsoft for three years and
so had to believe in something that provided me with my bread and
butter, and of course, chocolate. (grin) However, I could crash any
windows system with great ease. Some of it is the OS itself, which,
although it is better in versions 7 and 8, still has more crashing
issues than Mac. Some of it, probably most of it, is due to the fact
the the screen reading software is separate from the os. this has
always caused instability and i don't see that changing any time soon.
When it comes to iOS, there's no contest in my oppinion. Talks and
Mobile speaks and anything else is just so much more fickle than is the
iOS. I, and lots of people i know, struggled constantly with crashes
and lock-ups and having to turn the phone on and off a great number of
times even in a day.
I am very happy with both mac os and ios platforms andwould not want to
give them up.
. on apr 1, 2014, at 2:26 pm, jenine stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
this is an interesting question. from just an average user point of
view, i have been using my macbook pro since early february and use a
windows laptop for work. they literally sit side by side on my desk.
i had used the iphone since 2011 so was sort of familiar with how
voiceover works and love it on the ios platform that said, it's very
different on the mac or os side.
speaking first to stability, i managed to crash the mbp twice in the
first week but literally have not made the speech stop since then. has
my mbp slowed down or acted strangely a few times without explanation?
yes, but it's come back to its original performance soon after these fits.
my windows machine frequently hangs up both in the operating system in
general and because of screen reader/video issues. outlook is really
bad about this and i usually have to reboot at least once a day. yes, i
maintain my windows machine well with weekly cleaning and such but ...
the one thing that you will find difficult at first but which, if you
continue to plug away at it will soon become second nature, is the
whole concept of interacting with things. i hated it at first and still
am not fond of it. unlike the ios realm, you have to take an extra step
to access some things using voice over. once you get used to it though
and combine quick nav with the regular vo operation, and ask this list
a ton of stupid questions, :) you'll be fine.
i really like the variety of quality voices available with vo too. it's
fast and responsive. i'm sold. be sure though to give yourself some
time and be patient. beprepared to read over and over any and all
instructions, podcasts and other things about switching, commands and apps.
jenine stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com
on apr 1, 2014, at 2:14 pm, scott rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> wrote:
hello scott,
you will probably get a lot of varying opinions on this topic so you
will have to decide which ones you will take seriously or not. having
said this let me first tell you that ever since i switched to using a
mac more than 3 years ago i have become probably one of the biggest
apple fan boys that there is, so my thoughts on this subject are going
to have a strong apple bias to them.
if you are wanting a computing environment that is very stable
compared to what you are currently getting on the windows platform
then in my opinion you would be very happy with a mac.
the instability of my windows computer is exactly what helped me to
make the decision to make the switch over 3 years ago.
i used to have to restart my windows computer several times a day and
now that i am on a mac i hardly ever need to reboot.
you will notice that i said "hardly." i have had to restart my mac once
in a while due to lost speech or something, but as i stated with the
use the word hardly this does not happen with any regularity.
now having said all of this let me give you a little word of caution
about switching platforms. i teach blind people who make this switch
how to use their macs for a company called fedora outlier, llc and one
the biggest mistakes that people make is thinking that switching from a
windows computer over to a mac computer is going to be easy.
it isn't as easy as one might think. after all you are going to have to
learn how to use a totally different operating system and a new and
different screen reader.
now having said this if you are determined to learn the new platform
and you do it correctly by this i mean that you don't try and learn
everything in one day you can definitely learn how to use a mac very quickly.
one more thing. in response to your question as to whether or not a mac
is more stable than a windows computer. remember earlier when i said
that when i was still using a windows computer i would have to restart
the computer several times a day, well with my current mac which is
2012 mac book pro with 4 gigabytes of ram i haven't had to restart it
in about 2 weeks. my mac is on 24 hours a day. during the day when i am
working i am actually using it, and at night the mac will just sleep,
but it hasn't been turned off in at least 2 weeks now and voiceover is
running flawlessly .
i hope that all of this helps you with your decision and if you need
anything else please just ask.
have a great day,
scott rumery
on apr 1, 2014, at 11:44 am, scott duck <scottduck1...@gmail.com> wrote:
hi everyone,
as i said previously, i am thinking about getting a mac and the main
reason is that i am tired of the increasing instability of the pc
environment. my first question is, is this really different on a mac?
i am using jaws 15 with windows 8. both are not all that stable. i
have been a jaws user for 17 years and i have noticed a definite
progressive increase in instability with the last few releases. jaws
crashes frequently and, even if it doesn't crash, it often stops
talking when errors occur with other applications. then, there's
windows 8. i don't mind the windows 8 interface but several times per
week, i will have a problem that requires me to restart my computer. i
did not have that nearly as much with windows 7. also, it isn't
unusual for me to install a program which will, either directly or
through add ins, make windows and/or jaws more unstable. i then have
to decide rather the additional functionality is worth the increased
instability. i'm just tired of all the crashes and reboots and having
to use three or four screen readers because i have to run one when
another one crashes.
by contrast, my iphone and ipad, while not perfect, are certainly more
stable. voiceover seldom just stops working. of course, every single
app is not accessible and they do not all work correctly but any
problems with an app are almost always confined only to that app. when
an app crashes, it usually does not also cause voiceover or the device
to crash. is this also true of the mac?
i have certainly used technology enough to know that none of it is
perfect. however, i would like something that is better than the pc,
when it comes to stability. over all, in your experience, is the mac
more stable?
thanks,
scott duck
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