Thanks Pam, I think you mentioned one link I don't have.  I have tried the 
podcasts,  They sound like rumbling thunder, and not words.  Then again, I 
don't hear low tones.  I've printed and gone through all the apple pages as 
well, and not had any luck.  If a person is used to using Mac jargon, they 
might be able to learn something from the Apple pages.  Or, if they can 
hear, they might be able to learn from the podcasts.  

I wish some someone had taken the time to tell me how over jargon the few 
"training guides" are.  And that they mainly rely non spoken to learn it.  

Even if this is the last computer I ever use, and I never get to learn 
VoiceOver, I will attempt to complete a few projects I never could have 
completed with constantly reformatting Windows.

On Monday, April 7, 2014 2:42:20 AM UTC-4, gypsykitty09 wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, 
> It sounds as if we have all had varying experiences with an reasons for 
> changing to a mac. 
>
> We all have different means of learning as well as different paces we 
> learn. I think also changing under any circumstances requires a major 
> degree of commitment that one must truly consider before making the change. 
> There are plenty of resources out there for one to learn to use voiceover 
> be they Podcasts or blogs etc. 
> This first link is the help file directly from Apple's support site with 
> the table of contents for learning to use voice over. Is broken down by 
> chapter and very easy to use. 
>
> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.9/English.lproj/index.html 
>
> The next link is to a website and podcast by Ceretec Corporation. It is 
> called triple click home. The blog and podcast is very well worth checking 
> out. 
>
> http://tripleclickhome.com 
>
> This link is to a site by a voiceover trainer. It's called 
> Macfortheblind.com 
>
> http://macfortheblind.com/?p=1404 
> It helps familiarize a new user with interacting on the Mac. 
>
> The final link is from a gentleman from Australia who has done many 
> Podcasts dealing with various issues with voiceover on the iPhone and the 
> Mac. His material is well worth listening to and learning from. 
>
> http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com 
> I hope this is been helpful. 
>
>
> Pam Francis 
>
> On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:10 PM, Devin Prater <d.pr...@me.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
>
> I don't see what the fuss is. I was able to make good documents, for a 
> history class. I could allign things, italicize, make headings and such. 
> What else would you want to do? 
>
> Sent from my iPod 
>
> > On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:06, Phil Halton <phil...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Personally, I'm still having a tough time with word processing on the 
> Mac. I want to like and use pages, but I can't figure out styles and 
> formatting using pages. I still haven't found anything that compares with 
> MS office and JAWS for writing and formatting documents. JAWS really does 
> work well with Word and there's no getting around that. Pages seems clunky 
> by comparison, but I probably haven't given it a fair chance. 
> Spreadsheeting with numbers is great, but word processing is still a major 
> deficit on the Mac in my opinion. 
> > 
> >> On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Dan Eickmeier <va3et...@me.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I've been using a Mac here since February of 2008, and have not  had 
> any    reason to switch back to Windows.  Like a lot of people on this 
> thread, , I got tired of having to pay to keep a JAWS SMA updated, and I 
> also had it with their system of ILM authorizations.  I too, had  to have 
> my activations  reset a number of times as well.  And what got me really 
> interested, and wanting to go to the Mac, is the fact that we can do 
> complete reformats, and OS installs with VoiceOver.  Even with the 
> unattended install scripts that are out there for Windows,  and that 
> Winstaller app, which has become popular now, we still have nothing close 
> to being able to get the  OS, and do an install with full speech, or even 
> Braille.   
> >>> On Apr 6, 2014, at 6:59 PM, BBS <bbss...@icloud.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Well April, my offr is still on the table. If you like, I can teach 
> you how to use Voiceover. That goes for anyone that wants my help. Email me 
> off list and we'll set something up. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Shawn 
> >>> Sent From My White MacBook 
> >>> 
> >>> From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> [mailto:
> macvisi...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>] On Behalf Of April 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 4:52 AM 
> >>> To: macvisi...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> 
> >>> Subject: Re: Experience Switching to Mac 
> >>> 
> >>> Hello.  About ten months ago, I was declared legally blind.  I have 
> been on the search for a full diagnosis and prognosis since.  No luck. 
> >>> 
> >>> In December, when my Windows 7 machine became totally unstable, and 
> had been reformatted three times in less than a month, I bought a  Mac.  I 
> figured, if I had to learn a screen reader, it was best to do so on one 
> where the screen reader came built in. 
> >>> 
> >>> So far, no luck learning how to use the screen reader though.  I can 
> turn on and off.  That's about it.  I have a 40 page list of random 
> commands, and can't figure out what any of the are supposed to do.  A 
> dictionary would help.  Perhaps the lines above or below that don't make 
> sense are supposed to tell me what they do?   
> >>> 
> >>> I used to be a web designer, and I thought a screen reader should be 
> easy to learn to use.  After all, I'm good with with computers.   
> >>> 
> >>> I'm also horrible with foreign languages, and figured braille would be 
> impossible to learn.  I started the first contracted braille book I'm 
> reading last night.  I started learning braille last November. 
> >>> 
> >>> I still use a Windows 7 computer at night.  It takes about 15 minutes 
> to turn on, and every scroll of the screen takes forever.  I don't count on 
> it for anything. 
> >>> 
> >>> On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:11:11 PM UTC-4, Scott Duck wrote: 
> >>> Hi, 
> >>> As I have said, I am thinking about switching to the Mac and have been 
> trying to gather more information about it.  To that end, I have been 
> asking specific questions.  I will continue to do that but I would like 
> some general feedback from people who have made the switch from Windows to 
> the Mac.  Why did you switch In the first place?  Having switched, do you 
> feel that it was the right choice for you?  Do any of you regret having 
> switched or have you even gone back to the PC? 
> >>> Thanks, 
> >>> Scott Duck 
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